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With the sluggish sales of the Wii in Japan since about 12 weeks and the recent disappointment of first week sales for Super Mario Galaxy I am starting to doubt the longevity of the system. The Wii might be a fad after all which wouldn't be that surprising considering the sales of previous Nintendo consoles like the Gamecube, which started well at first too. Although the sales of the GC dropped much quicker.

I think the reason why the Wii could maintain its strong sales longer than the Gamecube is because the Wii had Wii Sports. I am worried what will happen to the western market once people get bored of this game, my guess is that the sales of the Wii will take a serious hit. Most of the Wii's success can be attributed to party games which is evidenced by the sales of Wii Play and Mario Party 8. This can't last forever.

I also lost faith in Nintendo as a developer of top notch first party software after the disapointments their combo of big games (Zelda, Metroid, Mario) has been. Zelda had tacked on controls, Metroid was a streamlined 5 hour game (if you want to see a picture for proof, let's exchange Wii numbers) and not the deep experience I was used to from the Gamecube games, Mario seems to be a totally easy game now (thanks to the casual gamers who can't handle hard games) which can be finished in about 7 hours. I feel betrayed by Nintendo and I am sure that I am not alone, many other longtime Nintendo fans probably feel the same way. Easy games suited for casual gamers is not the way this industry should heading to, I want to play my deep singleplayer games like they used to be. Instead of making games for me, Nintendo develops Wii Fit and other crap which aren't even real games.

Because third parties still don't see the Wii as viable platform we will get mostly minigames from them, which make up already the biggest part of the Wii's library. The strong sales of the Wii early on didn't matter as all the major third party franchises I care for are still not in the works for the Wii, only for 360/PS3. That's not what I would call serious support. I can't really blame them, seeing that only Nintendo games seem to sell well on Nintendo systems, the Wii is no exception.

I think once the 360 and PS3 get another price cut, the Wii is finished, because I don't see Nintendo dropping their price as well, they will continue to overcharge for their outdated hardware which as we all know is only two Gamecubes duct taped together.

Now another reason why I could see the Wii failing is the growing adoption rate of HDTVs. Even the PS3 will be able to easily pass the Wii because thanks to the Cell and Bluray it is futureproof and will last for at least ten years. On top of that the 2008 lineup of the 360 (Fable 2, Halo Wars, Banjo 3) and the PS3 (MGS4, GT5, GTA IV) can't be countered by anything the Wii offers.

Generally the Wii sold well until now because it is cheap. The old technique used in the Wii can't last forever and we will most likely see a Wii HD in 2009, just like Pachter said. 

Other problems I have with the Wii are: Games for it so far haven't proven that the Wiimote can be used in more than just gimmicky ways. Nintendo doesn't seem to care for online, most games don't support it and in the ones that do, I have to deal with the annoying friend codes. The virtual console seemed to be a great idea at first, but let's be honest, the games are overpriced. I mean €8 for a Megadrive game, seriously?

 

 

Thoughts? 



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Your post seems like a parody at some points. Is it?



My Mario Kart Wii friend code: 2707-1866-0957

Sony fans have been able to stick it out despite one of the worst system launches in recent history and perhaps the most dismal series of events to ever befall a console in its first year.

Xbox fans have been able to cope with a console that has at least a 30% failure rate if not substantially higher with no market in Japan and a severe lack of diversity in games.

PC Gamers have been riding a dissapearing medium for the last decade, if not longer, having to fight off obscurity with each new Game Console Generation.

And you're upset because of a lull in the Japanese Market for the Wii and the less than best sales of one game.... God Nintendo fans have gotten spoiled.



Onimusha12 said:
Sony fans have been able to stick out one of the worst system launches and dismal series of events for a console in recent history.

Xbox fans have been able to cope with a console that has at least a 30% failure rate if not substantially higher with no market in Japan.

And you're upset because of a lull in the Japanese Market and the less than best sales of one game.... God Nintendo fans have gotten spoiled.

You're right. We have gotten spoiled. Personally, I still believe Wii will get 1st or 2nd place. There is so much going next year, this thing will still keep going.



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This is so pathetic......

It is not because SMG sold below expetations of ever nintendo fanboy that you guys should again bash the PS owners.

Good job rol.






Well, personally I agree, but it just seems so unlikely that a console with the success of the wii would ultimately fail.



Welcome to my world, RolStoppable.

I wouldn't agree that the Wii is "just a fad" - 13m units sold isn't a fad. Nevertheless, I think that some people have presumptiously assumed that since the Wii is selling at a breakneck speed, it'll always sell at a breakneck speed.

Christmas 07 will be the teller of all things: will consumers really addopt alot of Wii software, like 06 (which it bounced upto a 4.0 attach rate on games like M:UA, CoD3, and Madden in the US), or will it follow the path of strong minigame sales?

Time will tell. Nevertheless, if the Wii does only move ~60k systems in Japan this week, it might not be the greatest, as the Japanese only view the Wii as a ultra-casual system, and wind up with DS attach rates (which are great for a handheld, but not for a console).

However, the big question is how it fares in the Western markets. PAL and the US are where it's at.



Back from the dead, I'm afraid.

Regarding the points that you make in your post, they've been intensively discussed in this forum already. It seems that all you did was collect together a bunch of Wii negativity in the same post, which is why I previously asked if you're writing this for the sake of parody.

 



My Mario Kart Wii friend code: 2707-1866-0957

Wii is still outselling everyone, I don't see the problem. Call me when it gets 6 months of PS3 sales (from early 2007).



Predictions for 2009: (Right) (Wrong) (Partial)

Pokemon Gold/Silver DS Japan in September

NES colored Wii and SNES Classic Controler for Christmas

Super Role Bros for Christmas

FF Remakes announced; VII PS3 VIII 360 IX Wii

New Super Mario World November 2009