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That's not true, Son. I had a copy of it a very long time ago which somehow got lost before I got very far into the game.



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Aeris death, I was like: WTF, that cannot be true, Cloud do something, SAAAVVVEEE HHHHEEER
The Kingdom in FF VI, I was like: Kefka is really a badarse, that guy is just crazy
The children in FF IV, I was like: I will come back and save you later, your sacrifices shall not go in vane.

Edit: And one more thing, those other death you kind of see them coming and were in 2D and Aeris death was in 3D and Cinematic



Xen said:
twesterm said:
Xen said:
nofingershaha said:
Entire kingdom = statistic.

Palom and Porum = kids = annoyance

Aerith = potential love interest + we were young and innocent then = HEARTBREAK!!!!!

That's pretty much an answer to your question, tehsage. That is absolutely correct.

Palom and Porum were terribly annoying, and mostly useless, too.

WHAT!?

I don't know what you were doing when you were playing that game but you were doing it wrong.

Using Tellah instead ;)

What?!?! You're not helping your case, Tellah is horribly bad.

He only has 90 MP and his wisdom & will power are laughably low making his spells so weak.



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Kasz216 said:
tehsage said:

Alright, so, Aerith dies in FF7. Yes, I'm pretty everyone and their mother knows that by now. However, I'm a little curious as to why her death bothered people so much versus what has happened in other Final Fantasys.

For instance, in Final Fantasy VI, an entire kingdom is killed. AN ENTIRE KINGDOM. Pshh, we don't care about them. We only care about party members!

I'm playing Final Fantasy IV right now. It's my first time, so, no extra spoilers please. Anyhow, three people in my party have died so far. Two of which were fucking children. TWO KIDS SACRIFICE THEMSELVES. Aerith is killed. "OMG NOOOOO" Two children die. "Who cares?"

 

>__>; Thoughts?

In FF5 a player character is killed to.

 

More people care about FF7... because they played it first. 

 

Also... the Phantom Train moment is far sadder then anything in 7.

 

FF7 was amusingly just following a trend of playable characters dieing in FF. (two die in FF6 to.)


It's just people heralded it as the "first" time it happened because nobody knew better.

No no no no no. This is where you got it all wrong. Aerith dying was big because she was to be one of the most CRUCIAL MAIN characters in the game as far as importance went. Best example, picture having Spiderman fight villains for a long time as we follow that comic and all of a sudden out of NOWHERE BAM MJ gets killed. I endured FF1 with the same midi music that NEVER changed even for boss fights. It's like a Romeo and Juliet story where only Juliet dies. Aside from it being the first CG instance where we see something like that happen. She was the heroine of the story, and the way the story was written, they lead you to believe in the end it's Cloud and Aeris to stay together and be happy. The only other instance that could have rivaled that is if Squall at the very end of FFVIII would have died in Rinoa's arms.



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Not this again..

It's simple, how can we give a crap about a kindgom in FFVI where we aren't introduced to anyone on a personal level.

We didn't know Cyan on a personal level before that, and we never got to know his family well enough. Why should anyone care? There's no substantial backing for that.

It's not what happens, it's how it happens. Keep that in mind.

You got to know Aeris throughout the game, her opinions, her interactions her personality etc.

Forget about if you liked Aeris or not, there's a lot of detail presented with her on a personal level involving her mother, her Ancient status, and her interactions with everyone in the party.

That's why her death is significant. The manner that it happened in was also significant. Great execution (not talking about just her death) of music and cinema/gameplay after wards.



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Majin-Tenshinhan said:
That's not true, Son. I had a copy of it a very long time ago which somehow got lost before I got very far into the game.

Sorry. I heard/read that on net. 

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Final_Fantasy_Anthology
http://www.gamespot.com/ps/rpg/finalfantasyanthologypal/index.html
http://psx.ign.com/objects/493/493323.html
http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/psx/data/919225.html

You probably had NTSC version and played it on a modded/imported PS1/2. 

 

edit: Why does everyone call me by weird names? Son, seriously? (you and Soriku) or s0n1x (lestat)...



"And yet, I've realized that maybe living a "decent" life means you won't ever have a "good" life."

 

Were people really that shocked when Aeris died? (Aerith? who's that?) I wasn't shocked at all really myself..then again, a lot of people talk about shocking video game moments and I can't remember ever really being 'shocked' about any video game. I didn't care that she died cuz I thought Tifa was hotter anyway, so I felt like it made it easier on my character (Cloud) to decide who to 'be with'..lol.



twesterm said:
Edouble24 said:
The way it was done is shocking. Aeris dies and does NOT come back. She seemed to be the main love interest in the game and the primary party healer with no replacement. Sephiroth also destroyed an entire village in the same exact game, killing Cloud's mother and Tifa's father, yet it's not as big of a deal because we didn't spend any time with them. We just know that event helped shape Cloud and Tifa into the characters that they are, Aeris we got to know and love/hate. It's also FFVII.

THe thing with Sephiroth burning the village, it just didn't seem to matter.  The act of burning the village was overshadowed by other things and you just didn't think about that, you were thinking about Sephiroth what the fuck he was up to and what was Cloud's past.  You were just so disconnected from it.

With Kefka and Doma, it was purely focused on Kefka and his horrible act.  Later, you directly experienced the aftermath of that act and it was just an incredibly moving piece. Everything you did, Cyan in Doma, the camp, and the phantom train, was all because of what Kefka did.

Watch my above link if you don't believe me.

The aftermath happens, but regardless we didn't get to know Cyan's family that well; nor Cyan to feel any impact on a personal level.   

After all, how can we as humans be moved to something we haven't had enough time to become attached to?  It doesn't just instantly happen, it takes time to build these important moments and then finally let them explode.  Interactions are what generally build these moments, and while FFVI did indeed have a lot of good moments, most of them happened too soon.

 



This will only take a moment of your time. *steals your watch*

Son1x said:
Majin-Tenshinhan said:
That's not true, Son. I had a copy of it a very long time ago which somehow got lost before I got very far into the game.

Sorry. I heard/read that on net. 

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Final_Fantasy_Anthology
http://www.gamespot.com/ps/rpg/finalfantasyanthologypal/index.html
http://psx.ign.com/objects/493/493323.html
http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/psx/data/919225.html

You probably had NTSC version and played it on a modded/imported PS1/2. 

 

edit: Why does everyone call me by weird names? Son, seriously? (you and Soriku) or s0n1x (lestat)...

No, it was PAL. I didn't have a modded PS2 back then. I swear on the name of Nintendo that FF6 was released on the PSX in PAL. Wikipedia backs me up, too.



Son1x said:
Majin-Tenshinhan said:
That's not true, Son. I had a copy of it a very long time ago which somehow got lost before I got very far into the game.

Sorry. I heard/read that on net. 

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Final_Fantasy_Anthology
http://www.gamespot.com/ps/rpg/finalfantasyanthologypal/index.html
http://psx.ign.com/objects/493/493323.html
http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/psx/data/919225.html

You probably had NTSC version and played it on a modded/imported PS1/2. 

 

edit: Why does everyone call me by weird names? Son, seriously? (you and Soriku) or s0n1x (lestat)...

Final Fantasy VI on PS was released in Europe (PAL)
http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=3322&region=PAL