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Snesboy said:
Sempuukyaku said:
Dv8thwonder said:
Sempuukyaku said:
Dv8thwonder said:
I hope he reconsiders.

I don't. He should have the taste slapped out of his mouth for his Aonuma comments. If I want to read Rush Limbaugh, I'll check out his blog.

 

what he said was bad but to compare him to Limbaugh is a bit extreme.

Hmm.....

 

 

Okay, I'll concede that. Someone here compared him to Glenn Beck. I DO think that's more accurate, however. 

Do. Not. Bring. Politics. Into. My. Gaming.

Get. Over. Yourself.



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He thinks there will be fewer games in 2011, really?

 

A little early to make that call, methinks.



Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.

Sempuukyaku said:
Snesboy said:
Sempuukyaku said:
Dv8thwonder said:
Sempuukyaku said:
Dv8thwonder said:
I hope he reconsiders.

I don't. He should have the taste slapped out of his mouth for his Aonuma comments. If I want to read Rush Limbaugh, I'll check out his blog.

 

what he said was bad but to compare him to Limbaugh is a bit extreme.

Hmm.....

 

 

Okay, I'll concede that. Someone here compared him to Glenn Beck. I DO think that's more accurate, however. 

Do. Not. Bring. Politics. Into. My. Gaming.

Get. Over. Yourself.

That's not an ego comment, that's a stay-on topic comment. There is a difference.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

^Thank you Lord.



bdbdbd said:
@Yushire: He has been making mods himself, so i can't see the hate. There's a difference between UGC as an additional feature and UGC as an idea of the game. And Malstrom hates the latter.

I don't know is DD that much of an PC feature, but i have to say i can't really disagree him. If you have downloadable games, they should be dirt cheap, but as PSP GO proves, that's not the case. The whole opposition of DD is more about publishers making a problem about used game sales, that they want to kill with downloads.

And the problem with online gaming is that it seems to be required for every game, despite the majority of gamers not playing online. The developers focus is on online, instead of focusing on the offline play.

 

Level editors arent UGC, he even says it for himself. Besides, UGC wont work out with the games without professional content in it. Again, look at LBP yeah, its not as groundbreaking as other games out there but it did sell and not because its a platformer either. Just look at other 2-d platformers during the PSx till to this day and see their sales. Like Klonoa. What about Boom Blox? He always defends himself and his views even though he bash WSR and Wii Fit plus before and ignore NSMB Wii and months before that he says PS3 will take on Wii's disruption with their motion controlled peripheral.

 

 

His views about DD was flawed either, if so, Valve was already bankrupt because most of the games they disrtributed are from Steam, which defined DD itself. And yet even after all these years Valve still remain intact  its too successful that every other game, movie and music company wants to take a piece of Steam.

 

 

And online LOL... Yeah, online games arent needed OR IS IT? There are some games that shouldnt need online but racing games, FPS, console RTS, fighting games, TPS NEEDS ONLINE. Especially on consoles his  view points are always "consoles shouldnt be like PCs" mentality that I questioned what his true intentions are with his blogs.

 

 

Lets say that Nintendo DID what Malstrom says in his blogs, 2-d games like Kirby, Mario, Donkey kong Country like game, arcade games like shmups, etc., minigames, no story games I think the game industry will go down soon as fast as we think. Most games that have 2-d gameplay and arcade feel to it as a retail version didnt sell well even he thinks why these games dont sell was because of its quirkiness. yeah Malstrom, NSMB Wii did sell consoles yeah, 1.4 million NSMB Wii sold and only 1.24 million Wiis thats definitely impressive. LOL. Lets not forget that NSMB Wii was the most pirated game on 2009 even it didnt surpassed one month yet. I even thinks gamers buy Wii for WSR and gamers bought NSMB just for the nostalgia and novelty because of the red case. If the case was the same as other Wii games everyone will ignore it. 

 

 Im not in for games with long cutscenes and texts but after  he says FF1 was the best Final fantasy but after that it goes downhill I tell to myself "huh"?!! The final fantasy games goes downhill because of FFVII NOT FF2 or 3. FF3 in US FFVI in Japan was one of the best games I ever played and he thinks it sucks? If JRPGs dont have linearity and story which means a reason to play the game we might as well play MMORPGs and Monster Hunter which destroys the purpose of JRPGs. Again, Im nit for long cutscenes and texts like FFX and MGS series but really... he thinks games have story was bad.



end of core gaming days prediction:

 

E3 2006-The beginning of the end. Wii introduced

 

E3 2008- Armageddon. Wii motion plus introduced. Wii Music. Reggie says Animal crossing was a core game. Massive disappointment. many Wii core gamers selling their Wii.

 

E3 2010- Tape runs out

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/ICG_Tape_runs_out.jpg

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Mr Khan said:

He thinks there will be fewer games in 2011, really?

 

A little early to make that call, methinks.

 

 

He's just full iof himself lately. He thinks old school was the future even most Nintendo fans abandoned gaming NOT NIntendo abandoned them. Im for arcade like experience but Im not into old school like what Malstrom says. If old school and pure arcade like experience will be the norm then Sin and Punishment 2 becomes system seller right now. It isnt though.



end of core gaming days prediction:

 

E3 2006-The beginning of the end. Wii introduced

 

E3 2008- Armageddon. Wii motion plus introduced. Wii Music. Reggie says Animal crossing was a core game. Massive disappointment. many Wii core gamers selling their Wii.

 

E3 2010- Tape runs out

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/ICG_Tape_runs_out.jpg

yushire said:

And online LOL... Yeah, online games arent needed OR IS IT? There are some games that shouldnt need online but racing games, FPS, console RTS, fighting games, TPS NEEDS ONLINE. Especially on consoles his  view points are always "consoles shouldnt be like PCs" mentality that I questioned what his true intentions are with his blogs.

 

Goldeneye, mariokart, street fighter.

Fps, racing and fighting games dont need online.

Fighting games definitely dont need online.

The only game that needs online is rts strategy games.

 



@Yushire: Do you know why online multiplayer is so important these days? First the games tend to lack the local multiplayer. And secondly, the online experience is arcade experience.

Remember Halo on Xbox? Of course you don't for it flopping so hard due to lack of online multiplayer.

If online in itself would be a deciding factor, online multiplayer had tapped into a new audience and obviously this isn't the case.

There's Virtual Console for nostalgia. Why aren't people using that? And also, NSMB Wii is pretty much stripped from the nostalgia elements.
The red box is for visibility, but it definately isn't the reason why the game sells. If Ninjabreadman 2 was put in a red box, it would sell millions and have huge legs, right?
There are other 2D platformers, including Wario World: The Shake Dimension, but for example the Wario World has identity problems that do relate to quirkiness. All games titled "Wario" are quirky. This isn't that much of a problem with minigame collections, but as a game with more serious gameplay, it becomes a problem.
Ever since the fifth gen, there haven't been 2D games that would push systems. All the big IP's and budgets went 3D, you could get 2D gaming on Gameboy. People who didn't care for 3D games went to handhelds and people who cared for arcade gameplay went to PC that, still back then, had arcade gameplay with shooters. Also the aspect of multiplayer went down the drain with 3D games. Goldeneye was popular because of its multiplayer, that didn' exist so much on consoles that time.
NSMBWiis ability to move systems will be seen early next year. If the sales are at level of last year, it's not pushing systems and if higher, then it is.

If level editors aren't UGC, then what they are? Malstrom is saying level editors aren't the type of UGC he's complaining about, since level editors are additional feature for the game. Brawl has a level editor, which is vastly different from Brawl being only the level editor.
There is a market for UGC, in fact, there is a market for practically anything you can ever think of. But banking the future on something that has a very niche audience is very stupid.

Yes, consoles shouldn't be like PC's. If they should, people wouldn't be buying consoles. All they would buy, would be PC's.

DD works as long as every game isn't downloadable content. Look at the number of people who don't have their consoles online. That's bigger number than people who do. With downloadable games, that would leave everyone who don't have their consoles online out. With PC's this works better, since having the PC online is one of the major reasons to have it in the first place. Despite Steam, the devs have been going from PC to consoles with their games.

What i do agree is, that Malstrom isn't taking into account that the audience you're able to reach is the exact same size you're making games to, even when he keeps making the notion that mainstream means only a bunch of niches put together.



Ei Kiinasti.

Eikä Japanisti.

Vaan pannaan jalalla koreasti.

 

Nintendo games sell only on Nintendo system.

yushire said:
bdbdbd said:
@yushire: Ok. Thanks. That sucks, i hope the boxes don't appear around here.
But why in the hell the holes have to be where the disc is. The box is supposed to protect the disc and the holes remove the protection (to an extent).

 

 

Dont blame Nintendo or MS for this, if not they should've done this long time ago trust me. Blame the global elites and greenpeace on this, are anyone noticed that its only the NA are doing this BS even on DVDs and Blu Rays even 2 years ago? Environmentalism was  a scam, global warming was a scam. Anyone remembered the ozone layer hole? Gaming companies arent the one who blame on this. Theyre just pressured lets not forget the LONG RECESSION and unemployment and tent cities and the universal health care just passed on the house even though the majority of americans dont want it.

 

 

 

 

The plastic in that case will be around long after you've stopped playing that game. Pretty much all the pastic that was ever created still exists in some form today.

Oh and the 10-12min burn times in my country attest to the Ozone hole.



Tease.

@bdbdbd------> Its really good if we have opinions are we? But still, those are still opinions.



"Do you know why online multiplayer is so important these days? First the games tend to lack the local multiplayer. And secondly, the online experience is arcade experience."



"Remember Halo on Xbox? Of course you don't for it flopping so hard due to lack of online multiplayer"


Yeah, we should have competitive splitscreen online multiplayer in a single TV too. And make the AI behave like people too in expense of complicated processors instead of a video card. NO. The problem with Malstrom was he demonizing online console multiplayer even though he dont know why gamers play splitscreen multiplayer in the first place.


"If online in itself would be a deciding factor, online multiplayer had tapped into a new audience and obviously this isn't the case."



What the new audience needs are splitscreen co op not competitive multiplayer splitscreen. Thats why Left4Dead series are very very popular. Thats why even majority of gamers are tired of WW2 shooters they still buying COD WAW not because of its online multiplayer but because of the zombie mode and splitscreen co op.


Doesnt mean though that theres no new audience for competitive online multiplayer, so tell me what age bracket Halo 3, COD 4 and Gears of War have? Its 13-16 mostly male are the majority. So you think its the old generation? Not the new audience? Well lets just face the facts, FPS and RTS arent the casual arcade type games except DOS games such as Wolfenstein 3-d. Just make your mom and your sister play a Wii FPS lets see how will they react. Handling the wiimote in your hand on FPS was easy onece you get used to it, but its same goes to analog and keyboard and mouse controls. Even with any control options the casuals still hard getting used to controls.


Its not the arcade easy to pick up gameplay that Malstrom says about FPS. Its complicated its not simple as 2-d platformer or Wii Sports and WSR and it shouldnt be.




"There's Virtual Console for nostalgia. Why aren't people using that? And also, NSMB Wii is pretty much stripped from the nostalgia elements.
The red box is for visibility, but it definately isn't the reason why the game sells. If Ninjabreadman 2 was put in a red box, it would sell millions and have huge legs, right?"



IT SELLS BECAUSE ITS MARIO. Add 2-d game elements and we have recipe for nostalgia haven. If its just for arcade experience then why Nintendo cant come up with it in the first place? And instead the games that Malstrom pissed off. And for a reference, Spirit tracks was second on top 10 in Japan along with NSMB Wii so its not the arcade experience why game sells after all. Yeah theres no content on it that defines Nostalgia then why the koopalings are back? Why is Yoshi back? The ghost houses? The wigglers? The redo music of SMB1 especially on the underground level? The piranha plants? The enemies that are from SMB3? The POW? etc..? the P?


"There are other 2D platformers, including Wario World: The Shake Dimension, but for example the Wario World has identity problems that do relate to quirkiness. All games titled "Wario" are quirky. This isn't that much of a problem with minigame collections, but as a game with more serious gameplay, it becomes a problem."


Wario Land didnt sell because well its Wario. Should he be in gameboy or something or the DS? If theres a Wario Land on the Ds it sure will sell. WELL since it already outperform by NSMB DS I think 2d-Wario arent destined to shine.



"Ever since the fifth gen, there haven't been 2D games that would push systems. All the big IP's and budgets went 3D, you could get 2D gaming on Gameboy. People who didn't care for 3D games went to handhelds and people who cared for arcade gameplay went to PC that, still back then, had arcade gameplay with shooters. Also the aspect of multiplayer went down the drain with 3D games. Goldeneye was popular because of its multiplayer, that didn' exist so much on consoles that time.
NSMBWiis ability to move systems will be seen early next year. If the sales are at level of last year, it's not pushing systems and if higher, then it is."



Of course NSMB Wii will be a system seller along with Wii Sports and WSR and MK Wii but doesnt mean there will be a surge of old school gamers reanimating back from the ashes. Thats why theres no sequel for NSMB DS once you get the market just as WSR and Wii Sports you cant do that again. Its like Land Before time have a sequel which it did sadly. Though there should be a NSMB Wii 2 though, I think NSMB should have a sequel with more stages this time. These are the games that you played forever after all just like WSR and MK Wii and Wii Sports.


NSMB Wii was system seller because that the nature of 2-d platformers, its always a system seller. Not because of the arcade gameplay. And about the red case its always the red case. The red case was collectible since not only bring nostalgia its actually pleasing too the sensation was like a child liking a toy.


http://www.cubed3.com/media/2009/November/jb/mariobroswiicover.jpg


http://www.gamesmen.com.au/catalog/blog/uploaded_images/WII-NEW-SUPER-MARIO-BROS-704001.jpg



So darn collectible. I can even not just play this game and make it as a display.



Anyway my post was already too long but I already point out about UGC and DD. I even made a thread about it. And yeah, level editors arent UGC, UGC was a different beast. Level editors are like excite bike, battle city and wrecking crew. The novel wears off afterwards. UGC was like Boom Blox and LBP, its not just make a level limited on what level editors have. Anyone seen the Contra LBP right? What about this?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTo-wFfIXKo



Lets not forget Mario paint. NOW thats UGC.







end of core gaming days prediction:

 

E3 2006-The beginning of the end. Wii introduced

 

E3 2008- Armageddon. Wii motion plus introduced. Wii Music. Reggie says Animal crossing was a core game. Massive disappointment. many Wii core gamers selling their Wii.

 

E3 2010- Tape runs out

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/ICG_Tape_runs_out.jpg