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Mario is good as he is, making him hyper-realistic he'd just suck like that appalling Mario movie sucked.



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For the most part games this generation are all rehashes with the exception of stuff like WiiSports.

All the FPS games coming out are in the same vein as 1996-2003 PC FPS games, with the exception of Gears of War and their cover mechanic.

Halo 3 is basically Halo 1 and 2

Call of Duty has followed the exact same formula up to and including high damage, cinematic levels, and loadouts since 2001 when they developed Medal of Honor: Allied Assault

Even PC games with very few exceptions are repeating themselves over and over again.

BioShock=System Shock only less intricate and a whole lot easier

Games are at a point right now where they're getting refined all to hell and back, but there hasn't been a real revolution. No new genres have popped up. With all the talk of how hitech everything is I haven't seen a single game that couldn't be done fundamentally on the Wii that's been done on the PS360 except Dead Rising. I mean if you turd up the graphics on any other game this generation, it could be ported over to the Wii.

I can't imagine how bleak and boring this generation would be if it weren't for the Wii at least giving us a new control scheme.

Hell I thought FPS games would never get boring the first time I played Wolfenstien and Doom, 15 years later I can barely get through a couple levels or play a few times online before it becomes a boring chore. I started to realize this was the case when I was buying a new shooter every week or 2.



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cAPSLOCK said:
For the most part games this generation are all rehashes with the exception of stuff like WiiSports.

All the FPS games coming out are in the same vein as 1996-2003 PC FPS games, with the exception of Gears of War and their cover mechanic.

Halo 3 is basically Halo 1 and 2

Call of Duty has followed the exact same formula up to and including high damage, cinematic levels, and loadouts since 2001 when they developed Medal of Honor: Allied Assault

Even PC games with very few exceptions are repeating themselves over and over again.

BioShock=System Shock only less intricate and a whole lot easier

Games are at a point right now where they're getting refined all to hell and back, but there hasn't been a real revolution. No new genres have popped up. With all the talk of how hitech everything is I haven't seen a single game that couldn't be done fundamentally on the Wii that's been done on the PS360 except Dead Rising. I mean if you turd up the graphics on any other game this generation, it could be ported over to the Wii.

I can't imagine how bleak and boring this generation would be if it weren't for the Wii at least giving us a new control scheme.

Hell I thought FPS games would never get boring the first time I played Wolfenstien and Doom, 15 years later I can barely get through a couple levels or play a few times online before it becomes a boring chore. I started to realize this was the case when I was buying a new shooter every week or 2.

Agreed. Yes, in fact, did you hear the reactions of the critics when Super Mario Galaxy 2 appeared? "Looks more of the same"

Then, what is Halo 3? What is Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2? What is Bioshock 2? God of War 3? Gran Turismo 5?

At least maybe Zelda Wii will change many things in the gameplay. I love refreshing games, but a rehash sometimes is really cool.

If you consider Super Mario Bros 3 and Super Mario World, they are both great games, but there's no revolution between the two concepts. Galaxy and 64 are both revolutions. Mario 64 = 3D

Galaxy = space, gravity, gorgeous graphics (for the Wii)

But it's all about collecting stars...



Alby_da_Wolf said:
Mario is good as he is, making him hyper-realistic he'd just suck like that appalling Mario movie sucked.

Very true, Mario graphically is fine. Take the Paper Mario games for example, cartoony graphics but superb and very fun to play. Some people find cartoon graphics off putting but they're just shallow and don't appreciate good games.



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Graphics do not make a game great.



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Bladeforce said:
Graphics do not make a game great.

Indeed.



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I don't get the whole discussion...it seems like everybody wants Nintendo to copy Sony and Microsoft now that they are finally successful. What advantage would it bring to the gaming world if Nintendo would do what the PS3 and 360 deliver: highly realistic, HD graphics?

Do we really need 3 consoles featuring basically the same games?

I can understand that some people (or quite a few, especially among the "hardcore" gamers) don't like Nintendo's games and the way they look. Fine. So the Wii is probably not the right platform for them.

But I think it is clear that Nintendo following the same path as the other two is not an option for the company.



SuperSteveyLes said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:
Mario is good as he is, making him hyper-realistic he'd just suck like that appalling Mario movie sucked.

Very true, Mario graphically is fine. Take the Paper Mario games for example, cartoony graphics but superb and very fun to play. Some people find cartoon graphics off putting but they're just shallow and don't appreciate good games.

Yes, (gameplay+plot+choosing the right graphics for the game+even more factors) > graphic detail, that's the reason why in single player Duke Nukem 3D was a lot better than Quake and Quake II. Each game has its right graphics, Mario must have cartoon graphics, make him more human and its humour doesn't work anymore, as that darn movie showed (it must also be said that they chose the wrong actor, Ron Jeremy could have been a perfect Mario, not Bob Hoskins )



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Alby_da_Wolf said:
SuperSteveyLes said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:
Mario is good as he is, making him hyper-realistic he'd just suck like that appalling Mario movie sucked.

Very true, Mario graphically is fine. Take the Paper Mario games for example, cartoony graphics but superb and very fun to play. Some people find cartoon graphics off putting but they're just shallow and don't appreciate good games.

Yes, (gameplay+plot+choosing the right graphics for the game+even more factors) > graphic detail, that's the reason why in single player Duke Nukem 3D was a lot better than Quake and Quake II. Each game has its right graphics, Mario must have cartoon graphics, make him more human and its humour doesn't work anymore, as that darn movie showed (it must also be said that they chose the wrong actor, Ron Jeremy could have been a perfect Mario, not Bob Hoskins )

What about Danny DeVito



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