darthdevidem01 said: NEXT WEEK PEOPLE:
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On that cover, is that the entire playable party?
darthdevidem01 said: NEXT WEEK PEOPLE:
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On that cover, is that the entire playable party?
Chrizum said:
Right, and you know this how? ToV has sold close to 530k. Even if Tales of Graces reaches 250k (which it won't), it hasn't even sold half of ToV, and at a lower price, too. Sure, development costs are lower on the Wii, but definitely not 3 times as low for a game that has production values up to par with ToV. |
Tales of Graces will definitely reach 250k. Quote me on it.
Yakuzaice said:
310k on Gamecube, 438k on PS2. |
486k on PS2.
Majin-Tenshinhan said:
On that cover, is that the entire playable party? |
yes, EXCEPT for the girl right at the front, lightning sister, serah
well its not confirmed she's not playable, but we know 6 characters are playable & we have seen all others in battle except for serah, so we can assume she isn't playable
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darthdevidem01 said:
yes, EXCEPT for the girl right at the front, lightning sister, serah well its not confirmed she's not playable, but we know 6 characters are playable & we have seen all others in battle except for serah, so we can assume she isn't playable |
Alright. The only ones I weren't sure were playable were Serah and that blonde kid way in the back.
wow winning eleven numbers are really bad. I guess more people are buying it on ps3 now.
Majin-Tenshinhan said:
Yeah, I think first week sales will eclipse first day sales greater than for previous Tales-titles. But are you sure about the hardware bundles not being counted? Because if they aren't, then sales will likely be quite a bit higher than most people are expecting. |
Unfortunately I'm not sure, but aren't hardware bundles counted separately in Japan?
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darthdevidem01 said: NEXT WEEK PEOPLE: ... |
Next week Famistu and Media Create only cover the PS3 and FFXIII sales.
The others consoles will be nothing.
starterman1989 said:
Interesting statement... Any data to back it up? Development cost, maybe? Retailer cut, platform holder royalty, promotion fee, or revenue calculation? Seems like you know quite a bit. *_* |
Should we roll out the generic profit map again? Average Wii development is 6.5 mil dollars. Average HD development is 18 mil dollars.
After retailer cut, average $50 game, publisher receives roughly 40, after cost return for manufacturing, advertising, etc, roughly $20 is left for profit.
Depending on the contract, the developer is given money ahead of time to produce the game. When X amount of sales are made, they then take in profit. Generally this number is around 500k units in basic markets. So, until the game hits that agreed upon number, the actual dev doesn't get any royalty money. So, by that, no Tales game has ever provided a royalty to the developer yet.
Backtracking, we have this concept of $20 profit to the publisher per game sold, and an investment of 7 mil to develop a Wii game and 18 mil for a PS3 game.
Current numbers put ToV at 370k roughly. 370x20 = $7,400,000
Current numbers put ToS at 250k roughly. 250x20 = $5,000,000
Granted, this is a ballpark figure, as both games operate at a loss which no publisher would stand for, but the general ballpark puts ToS closer to its break-even/profit line than ToV does.
There is a flex point to the development costs, naturally, as party games and non AAA titles tend to run cheaper on all systems. AAA games on Wii can reach 15 mil and PS3 AAA games can escalate to 30-60 mil.
Edit- So, some people are stating 700k for Tov, for WW, where I was specifically talking about Japan here. Yet, do the same math = 700k x20 = $14 mil , still shy of the average production cost/profit margin for a HD game.
Majin-Tenshinhan said:
Alright. The only ones I weren't sure were playable were Serah and that blonde kid way in the back. |
he is playable
we even know his summon is Alexander
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