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EnosStory said:
Just a excuses for a big flop, nothing more.

 I agree with you man, if there was 1 or a 2 in front of that 29,000,  everyone on here would be going nuts, Wii this and that, but that is not what happened.

 I don't doubt its a good game, but dont make excuses when it stumbles out of the gate and doesnt make expectations (whatever they were)  if it was exclusive on the X360 or PS3 and did the same numbers, its a flop, but because its exclusive to Wii and do these numbers, then its retailers not pushing on the shelves or whatever.

 Let's all be fair across the board thats all



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eclipse27 said:
EnosStory said:
Just a excuses for a big flop, nothing more.

I agree with you man, if there was 1 or a 2 in front of that 29,000, everyone on here would be going nuts, Wii this and that, but that is not what happened.

I don't doubt its a good game, but dont make excuses when it stumbles out of the gate and doesnt make expectations (whatever they were) if it was exclusive on the X360 or PS3 and did the same numbers, its a flop, but because its exclusive to Wii and do these numbers, then its retailers not pushing on the shelves or whatever.

Let's all be fair across the board thats all


It beat my expectations. A new IP point and click game with no advertising and little interest from retailers? I'm surprised it went as high as it did. 

These new users screaming "Bias!" when they've been here all of five minutes are getting seriously annoying. Learn a few things before you talk. 



@eclipse27

If you have any info from the developer of a PS3/360 game that was declared a flop, that had problems with getting their product on the shelf because retailers wouldn't take it then I think it is worthwhile to hold off on the labels.

If the game does poorly throughout its life its a flop. Even if it has a reason. The point is that right now is not the end of its life and it has a reason for a relatively mediocre first week (and if you think this is anything other than mediocre for a new unadvertised IP you are way off base). So I think its more than fair to give it the benefit of the doubt until after the holidays at least

The fact is that no matter what is said right now if in a year the game is under 120k its a flop. And the same is true of any game like this. Its not as if by having a conversation here we can change what is and isn't a flop at the end of a games life.



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stof said:
I'm saying that people here saying that this game; an unadvertised new IP is a flop or success based on the first week's sales is silly.

 So if it sales 5 million in the first week and I say it is a succes you would still call it a Silly comment ?

This reminds me of the time when people said ' PS3 HAVES Heavenly Swords' and then people were laughing because it has only 80K sold in his first week (also a new IP).

And I read a lot of comments about 'Wii haves Z&W' and now the PS fanatics can laugh with the sales of Z&W. Revenge.

I don't see why this game will have lng legs or will sell a lot in the future especially with the release of SMG soon.






Hmm, so a title based almost completely on hype will have legs?

Interesting theory you have there.



 

 

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MontanaHatchet said:
Hmm, so a title based almost completely on hype will have legs?

Interesting theory you have there.

 High-quality gameplay helps too.



MontanaHatchet said:
Hmm, so a title based almost completely on hype will have legs?

Interesting theory you have there.

Halo was based on Hype.

 

 

This was based on several websites. And you know why? Because they were afraid that no one would buy this new IP with undefinable gameplay, a dumb name and a deceptive art style.

 

And to call it a flop or success based on it's first week sales is pointless. Obviously had it sold an incredible amount first week that would have marked it a success, but still might do very well, or might now. We just can't tell whatsoever at this point.

 

And no, I'm not saying Halo is just based on Hype. It's also a great game. I'm just saying... It had HYPE! 



I'm a mod, come to me if there's mod'n to do. 

Chrizum is the best thing to happen to the internet, Period.

Serves me right for challenging his sales predictions!

Bet with dsisister44: Red Steel 2 will sell 1 million within it's first 365 days of sales.

You really are a Zack & Wiki fanatic, aren't you stof?



 

 

MontanaHatchet said:
You really are a Zack & Wiki fanatic, aren't you stof?

 That's a deflection, not a response.



HS had huge advertising, it had half a dozen spots on every NFL game for 2 weeks. I haven't seen a single advert for Z&W, much less a high profile ad like that. The only advertising so far has been from word of mouth.

If you want to say that sales are indicative of a flop right now, go ahead. But I don't think I ever called HS a flop.



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