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I predict that in December 2010 people will necro this thread and laugh in your face.



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^^^ I will!



"...You can't kill ideas with a sword, and you can't sink belief structures with a broadside. You defeat them by making them change..."

- From By Schism Rent Asunder

I think it ll be a mistake for MS release natal in 360, this generation in 2 years (maybe least) is gonaa be done. A natal with a new console (I already thought new xbox will be released before ps4 and wii2) will be very profitable.

MS----->Natal
Ninty--> HD
Sony-->?

However it is gonna be great but not as much as many people think. =P



Metroid: Other M

@ inu: PS4 might go for 3D (although that would require new tv's once again)



Don't forget, Sony Arc is Wii motion enhanced+Nadal Cam=Win.

But peripherics are not the key.

Marketing is key one and
games or applications are key two.

I predict sony will crush grosoft as they have always do. See you at the beginning of 2011.



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bat-ON said:
Don't forget, Sony Arc is Wii motion enhanced+Nadal Cam=Win.

But peripherics are not the key.

Marketing is key one and
games or applications are key two.

I predict sony will crush grosoft as they have always do. See you at the beginning of 2011.

Key one is firmly in the hand of MS, compared to what Sony has been doing the past few years (although they've picked themselves up lately).



nightsurge said:
libellule said:
jarrod said:
libellule said:
about the hype on Natal :

people have to realize it is REALLY far from the casual crowd right now
but, to defend Natal, we are also far from the release date meaning it is expected that NO one outside game/tech lovers know it ...

I pretty much agree with this.  I'm bullish on Natal largely off Microsoft's track record, they've really become masters at dealing with and manipulating the industry media.  I don't think it'll come close to Wii, but it'll probably help Microsoft regain their position post-slim.


to precise a bit my past post :

I DO THINK Natal may reach the mainstream media because MS are pro when it comes to marketing.

But, right now, Natal is NOTHING ...

Wait... how can Natal be really far from the casual crowd?  It's taken over every late night television show and morning news program.  Even my mom, my grandma, my aunts, my very very casual never play games and not even the Wii type people know and are hyped for Natal...

Right now, after E3 hype has finally settled down, Natal isn't being talked about as much, but it is still far from nothing.  PS3 Wand is NOTHING.

- I do completely agree about your other post when you say to someone that Natal is not really a "me too" product compared to the Wand that is clearly a "mee too" product

- but, I have to repeat to you and burst your bubble : NATAL is nothing right now, same go for the PS wand

it is not because hardcore gamer knows it, because some tech TV shows it that Natal exists.

game announced : Natal 0 Wand 1
advertising : 0
price : 0
release date : 0

seriously, NATAL is really far from the casual crowd right now AND that makes sense since we are far from the release date



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libellule said:
nightsurge said:
libellule said:
jarrod said:
libellule said:
about the hype on Natal :

people have to realize it is REALLY far from the casual crowd right now
but, to defend Natal, we are also far from the release date meaning it is expected that NO one outside game/tech lovers know it ...

I pretty much agree with this.  I'm bullish on Natal largely off Microsoft's track record, they've really become masters at dealing with and manipulating the industry media.  I don't think it'll come close to Wii, but it'll probably help Microsoft regain their position post-slim.


to precise a bit my past post :

I DO THINK Natal may reach the mainstream media because MS are pro when it comes to marketing.

But, right now, Natal is NOTHING ...

Wait... how can Natal be really far from the casual crowd?  It's taken over every late night television show and morning news program.  Even my mom, my grandma, my aunts, my very very casual never play games and not even the Wii type people know and are hyped for Natal...

Right now, after E3 hype has finally settled down, Natal isn't being talked about as much, but it is still far from nothing.  PS3 Wand is NOTHING.

- I do completely agree about your other post when you say to someone that Natal is not really a "me too" product compared to the Wand that is clearly a "mee too" product

- but, I have to repeat to you and burst your bubble : NATAL is nothing right now, same go for the PS wand

it is not because hardcore gamer knows it, because some tech TV shows it that Natal exists.

game announced : Natal 0 Wand 1
advertising : 0
price : 0
release date : 0

seriously, NATAL is really far from the casual crowd right now AND that makes sense since we are far from the release date

Not to rain on your parade, but Fable III is confirmed to use it. And Sony has announced five or six. It doesn't really take away from your point. Just might as well get all of them in :)



nightsurge said:
dsister44 said:
dsgrue3 said:
Zlejedi said:
Natal will flop and so will Sony wands.

That's my brave prediction.

This. 100this's. Anyone who says otherwise is dreaming. What do the hardcore gamers buy? 360/PS3. What do the casual gamers buy: Wii. Unless MS or Sony are hiding some pretty big secret games for E3 2010 to go with this new technology neither one will be gaining much attention if any.

 

Only people who browse the internet for information about games and consoles and whatever even care about this. I can promise you none of my friends even know about Natal or the Wand. And yes they ALL own consoles.

Somebody should tell them. Poor Microsoft. They spent millions of dollars buying 3DV. Maybe just maybe they will see these super insightful posts on a forum from people that obviously know the market better than Microsoft and Sony

LOL!  THIS!

Natal has been on Morning News Shows, late night shows, and on demo at lots of events.  Trust me, even a lot of casuals have heard about Natal and will keep hearing more as we get closer to release.

to put it clear and close the discussion :

INTERNET HYPE : EYE PET <<< Natal project

WW MEDIA HYPE : EYE PET >>> NATAL project

and when you consider Eye Pet is not big at all ...

I m not bashing Natal, neither saying MS will not support it with massive marketing

BUT RIGHT NOW, NATAL is close to nothing for the casual ...

EDIT : I have taken Eye pet cause it is a sort of "motion control game" using eye toy
it is released and has been in every big gaming event and REAL PUBLIC has tested it
from journalist to gamer and even the casual ones ...

(but we, hardcore gamers, just dont give a shit about it ;))



Time to Work !

Even if it did i doubt it would outsell the wii overall.