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Live Ban-Wave: Clever Way to Sell 1 Million Additional 360s in US/Canada?

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Vashyo said:
libellule said:
but if they have modded console, they have hacked games so, at the end, they could just buy a PS3 ... right ?

hum, they could also buy a new 360 AND mod it again hopping to not receive another heavy ban hammer on the face ...

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I thought about what the op thought too, million banned accounts could mean hundreds of thousands consoles sold.

MS will definately get more 360's sold but some pirates will definately switch to the competition...just to realize that you can't mod it later. Though I bet majority will just get a new 360 and play offline from now on.

 


A banned xbox can still play online with a friend, there are dedicated servers and tools you can use to play with your friends without xbox live. System link games only tho...

http://team-xecuter.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=107

Regardless, pirates are not going to switch to ps3 as its not piratable format. Buying a new xbox and maybe...holy shit...buying online games? This is what I see happening. My friends are doing it already...



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My friend got banned last night hes got a flashed box. But he said his profile is okay. wtf?? Thats what they SHOULD take.



Ynwa.

TyePhoid_PAL said:
My friend got banned last night hes got a flashed box. But he said his profile is okay. wtf?? Thats what they SHOULD take.

See what they did there? Banning the hardware and not the profile: Incentive to buy a new 360, which is clearly what Microsoft intened.

If they banned the profile along with the hardware there'd be less of a reason to buy another 360, some might consider switching to PS3.



"Well certainly with the Xbox 360, we had some challenges at the launch. Once we identified that we took control of it. We wanted to do it right by our customers. Our customers are very important to us." -Larry "Major Nelson" Hryb (10/2013). Note: RRoD was fixed with the Jasper-revision 3 years after the launch of 360

"People don't pay attention to a lot of the details."-Yusuf Mehdi explaining why Xbone DRM scheme would succeed

"Fortunately we have a product for people who aren't able to get some form of connectivity; it's called Xbox 360,”-Don Mattrick

"The region locking of the 3DS wasn't done for profits on games"-MDMAlliance

Because obviously all of the 33 million sales are RROD's and hackers.

I really hate fanboys sometimes ;/



Vashyo said:
libellule said:
but if they have modded console, they have hacked games so, at the end, they could just buy a PS3 ... right ?

hum, they could also buy a new 360 AND mod it again hopping to not receive another heavy ban hammer on the face ...

this

I thought about what the op thought too, million banned accounts could mean hundreds of thousands consoles sold.

MS will definately get more 360's sold but some pirates will definately switch to the competition...just to realize that you can't mod it later. Though I bet majority will just get a new 360 and play offline from now on.

 

Yeah, that's just really backwards and stupid logic.  I'm sure that could be a side effect, but MS did not ban those consoles so they could sell more consoles, they banned them because piracy hurts the gaming industry.  Microsoft publishes games and they don't want those games pirated.



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dorbin2009 said:
Because obviously all of the 33 million sales are RROD's and hackers.

I really hate fanboys sometimes ;/

Haha yeah, this site is a little crazy like that. It really boggles my mind sometimes.

 

@tyephoid, but then you'd get the achievement junkies who would cry up a storm (most of them mod their console, and glitch the achievements anyways).



If they are so anti-piracy, then why didn't they ban the accounts in question, too? Obviously they contain achievments gained by playing pirated games.



"Well certainly with the Xbox 360, we had some challenges at the launch. Once we identified that we took control of it. We wanted to do it right by our customers. Our customers are very important to us." -Larry "Major Nelson" Hryb (10/2013). Note: RRoD was fixed with the Jasper-revision 3 years after the launch of 360

"People don't pay attention to a lot of the details."-Yusuf Mehdi explaining why Xbone DRM scheme would succeed

"Fortunately we have a product for people who aren't able to get some form of connectivity; it's called Xbox 360,”-Don Mattrick

"The region locking of the 3DS wasn't done for profits on games"-MDMAlliance

Damnyouall said:
If they are so anti-piracy, then why didn't they ban the accounts in question, too? Obviously they contain achievments gained by playing pirated games.


They're paying Live customers who may have actually obtained achievements on a huge majority of game they do own.  Not all pirates download games either, a minority would only play backups of games they own.  Given it's pretty obvious that for a huge majority of stealth patched games Microsoft have been unable to detect them they don't know how many games are genuine and those that aren't. 

If they wanted to really send a message and deter pirates then they should have warned that anyone caught will have their account banned too.  Banning their account and console now only hurts their income and that user would probably go elsewhere, with this method they may stay loyal to the Xbox brand.  At least they have done something.



Well modders are already working on restoring those banned x-boxes:

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=16823

they are also working on stealth firmware that could bypass detection.

Then again I don't really see how MS would be profitable from million of people buying X360 arcades (as they already have HDDs etc) as that model is still rather minimal profit if it gives profits at all. Hell they would be even damaging their profit from accesories (as that's 1 million of additional X360 pads thrown into circulation).

Only effect could be on the PR front bumping the number of consoles sold (but it's unknown how many of those pirates would buy PS3/Wii instead) and to show Activision they fight with MW2 pirates.



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