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Xoj on 08 November 2009
.jayderyu said:
Dgc1808 said:
Kasz216 said:

I get what your saying. I'm just saying that I believe it's RPG fans [including final fantasy fans] that are the main drivers for the sales and that the game being a disney game isn't the main reason.  Tried pointing this out earlier with my first post in this thread. THe only Disney games I see selling are Movie tie-ins and extremely casual stuff, and they're not pushing anywhere near KH1&2 numbers and I wouldn't put them in either of those two categories.

Well I think your right. It is mostly applicable to RPG fans why people by the games, yes including Final Fantasy fans. So I present this link 2 DS rpgs and Crisis Core which as has been mentioned the basis of gameplay for BBS. Link I also present this link to represent Wii RPG in comparison of Crisis Core. 

There are of course problems with these comparisons. Especially in the Wii RPG vs Crisis Core. Theres no main Final Fantasy title on PSP or Wii to make an accurate comparison for the FF fans. Except for FF VII by PSN. I checked on the sales chart and it was there. Maybe it will be soon.

If it's all a matter of having RPG fans for your system. Then DX9 pretty much proves hands down that any system withe the user base especially whom ever has FF/DQ and the largest userbase is the most viable system.

So should BBS go to the Wii, yeah. But then I think this entire idea of third party exlusivity is crap and all third parties should try to deliver all games across all platforms. Unless there are REAL valid reasons why it can't. Like some game where Natal/EyeToy are mandatory and Nintendo has no option.

actually PSP have dissidia , crisis core, and FF13 Agito, also FF 7 -8 in japan.

 



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outlawauron on 09 November 2009
Soriku said:
outlawauron said:
Soriku said:
lestatdark said:
I don't want to be the odd person to point this out, but what happens if Epic Mickey doesn't do well?

DOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!

But that's almost impossible.

Relative to what? I mean, I don't think anyone predicts it to do as well as the main Kingdom Hearts titles.

Call me crazy but I think it *could* match KH2 numbers. They want this game to be BIG. But this is only if they do everything right with it. So far they have the attention/media thing down.

But I think he means if it completely bombs, or does something like less than 1 mil.

Well, if the Disney fanbase is the entire reason why Kingdom Hearts sells, as you say, then surely it'll do Kingdom Hearts 1 numbers, right?



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outlawauron on 09 November 2009
Soriku said:
Umm...but here's the thing. KH1 came out 7 years ago and 8 when Epic Mickey will release :P

So, you'll attribute the lower sales due to a declining Disney fanbase. What has happened to Disney is the past 8 years to make it decline so much despite being around numerous decades...



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Xoj on 09 November 2009
Soriku said:

I never said the Disney fanbase declined. I mean you're expecting the same sales to a game that released 7 years ago? That's ridiculous.

How do you explain KH2's sales then? Is it a decline in Disney fans? Or a decline in FF fans? or both.

actually kh1+2 pass 10 million a while ago, it sold almost the same kh1, a bit lower due rising piracy on the ps2.

late games got a hit mainly due that, FF12 sold less than FFX and so on.

 

but if u look carefully FF12 sales and kh 2 sales are VERY similar, they have similar first weeks in all regions.



outlawauron on 09 November 2009
Soriku said:

I never said the Disney fanbase declined. I mean you're expecting the same sales to a game that released 7 years ago? That's ridiculous.

How do you explain KH2's sales then? Is it a decline in Disney fans? Or a decline in FF fans? or both.

I'm not expecting those sales. I'm just saying that in response to people claiming that Disney fans (rather than Square/Final Fantasy fans) are the main ones purchasing the title.



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ClaudeLv250 on 09 November 2009

I agree with Soriku.

Kingdom Hearts III should be on the Wii too.



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Xoj on 09 November 2009
Soriku said:
5.68 mil (FF XII) and 3.73 mil (KH2) isn't that close :P

i do think it may be undertracked, because square enix said combine sales for kh1. com and kh2 passed 10 millions.



outlawauron on 09 November 2009
Soriku said:
I think that can be proven if KH BBS sells less than 358/2 Days (which I'm expecting). Otherwise, we're only looking at their marketing and their business choices (like putting CoM on GBA because of kids). Quite frankly, if they're marketing is aimed at Disney fans and they've put a game on a certain system just because of kids, I'm more inclined to believe we're right and you're wrong.

But aren't there more Square and Final Fantasy games on the DS versus the PSP?



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c0rd on 09 November 2009

In America, Kingdom Hearts is bigger than FF. It is the only region in which this is true. KH is the best selling console JRPG in the region (besting even FFVII), and KH2 outsold FFX-2 / FFXII. KH:CoM sold tons as well. Also see:

KH 358/2 (will outdo both without trouble)
edit: can't get KH 358/2 links to work somehow 

Compare that to, say, Japan, where they probably don't care for Disney as much:

KH1, KH2, KH:CoM, KH 358/2

I attribute much of this to the "Disney factor." On the PS2, GBA, and now DS, America has shown its KH fanbase is larger than FF's.

KH: BBS would do better on the Wii for a few reasons, one being the above. The other reason is PSP software being a bit weak in the west. Either way, I'm not sure it's worth a port at this point.


@ posts above: I think a decent test is if KH on the PSP doesn't outsell its FF's (Crisis Core and especially Disidia). I imagine there are more Square Enix fans than Disney on the PSP (though I could be wrong).



ClaudeLv250 on 09 November 2009

I think BBS "Final Mix" should be the Wii port. Maybe we'll actually get one of those this time.



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