Think you just did ;)

It will fail.

/anti-natal campaign

The thread-title is "Anyone actually think the Natal is gonna be a success?". The Wii is a huge success. So something even close to the Wii, would be a success. I do not expect something strange like outselling the Wii, but I could think of some fresh air to the Xbox360 in its late fifth or early sixth year.

And this first party vs 3rd party stuff is soooo pointless. Customers do not care about it anyway. All they see is that there is a certain gaming experience that is only on the Xbox360. They don't care about it being 1st, 2nd or 3rd party.

One of their biggest franchises (Fable) will support Natal. Fable II is the best selling WRPG this gen, so this might be another boost for Natal.

For me the great advantage Natal has compared to the Wii is that you still have the regular controller. So you can play your game with the controller, but for some minigames / puzzles or whatever you can use natal with motion controls. The Wii is pretty much motion control only (most of the games, I know GCN controllers work etc). So that might encourage developers to support Xbox360 and Natal.

yes

Of course it will be a success. Microsoft will have Milo going door to door telling people why they should buy it. People will listen because everyone loves Milo. He was the most amazing thing unveiled at E3.

Im sure that when Natal is released it will come bundled with all new 360 consoles (perhaps as a way of them not having to further drop their price). I am also expecting MS to encourage existing owners to purchase Natal by offering it for maybe £60 with a bundled "Wii Sports" mini game collection. This should still make Natal itself profitable but also help build hype / momentum - if existing owners ignore it then it will struggle to build momentum.

I also see MS making a lot of money from Natal long term by licensing the software and technology to other companies. As people have already suggested TV's, PC's, etc.

Any less than 10mil and it's not a real success. It might be a success on it's own, but not enough to attract much third party support.

Many 360 owners complain how people look waving their hands around with a wiimote and numchuck. To me, it's looks / would feel even sillier waving your hands around without something to hold. I don't see this doing real well, unless it's either bundled (required for a new 360), and under $100 for existing 360s.

Probably because most 3rd party companies actually profit from the 360.  From my understanding a lot of the third party stuff on the wii loses money because of it being shovel ware.  I guess we will all know with some time.

It'll be a bigger failure than Wii Fit.



Oh, yeah........

I don't think that natal will move much consoles. A pimped eyetoy will not help Xbox sales.

It seems that natal is imprecise with little motions. So it is not useable for ego shooters etc.