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Forums - Sales Discussion - Microsoft: on PS3s recent sales surge "We expect it to be short-term and we expect them to be back down to third place soon like they’ve always been.”

darthdevidem01 on 26 October 2009
CGI-Quality said:
darthdevidem01 said:
madskillz said:
kowenicki said:

I'm sorry to bring it up again... but regardless of what anyone says this gen, nothing will ever compare to the:

"The next gen starts when we say so"

I know its old but it SET THE MOOD of the gen, so please... cut the holier than thou bull.

Can I get an amen?

NOPE

You don't even have SONY's worst arrogant statement:

Kutaragi was asked what he feels about the price of the PS3 thatw as just announced to be $599

Kutaragi answered "It's probably too cheap"

 

& yes he did say that btw

Well, in all technical terms, he was correct. It just wasn't the best business move for the consumer, which ultimately matters most, but for what it was worth, the PS3 WAS too cheap at $600.

Technically NO generation can start until all competitors are out too

 



All hail the KING, Andrespetmonkey

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Loud_Hot_White_Box on 26 October 2009
nightsurge said:
Loud_Hot_White_Box said:

As pointed out, Sony wasn't  really in 3rd place in 08 sales and they won't be this year, either.

Someone will bump this thread in a few months and we will see if the MS rep was correct.

 

"like they've always been"? ...PS2 gen says 'hi'.  "Almost never been" is more accurate.

PS3 was behind in overall 2008 sales by ~800,000 units.  The shipments are about equal because there were many unsold units and much lower demand at the end of 2008 than originally thought.  Lots of stores were having massive clearances of old 40GB PS3's for well into 2009 because of this.  Also, "like they've always been" is referring to PS3 only so the PS2 generation can..... calmly stay out of this conversation since it is not a factor

Ah, convenient, convenient!  Then they can at least feel good about a little something!

Further, broader considerations can always be point out by others, however.



Dark Chaos on 26 October 2009
Loud_Hot_White_Box said:
madskillz said:
 

Over the PS3's 3 year span, I can't tell you the number of threads I've seen where folks are yappin' about the PS3's big break. I even remember when NJ5 had in his sig - PS3 domination starts in ... and there were several titles and events crossed out. [1]

The PS3 is still in third. Yes, the console will cut into the 360s lead, but reality is - Sony is still losing tons of money. When the financials come out, they'll still won't see a profit. And to think Sony is going to dig itself out of the hole they dug - and keep this steady pace while the 360, which IS making $$$ for MS, just stops selling? Wow. I just grin so much when I see statements like that. [2]

 

1. PS3 doesn't and hasn't needed a big break.  It's sold plenty well, faster than 360 over the same period.  The 'break' that will spur sales is a price break, as we all know.  MS can still counter (and the only way they can counter is) with another price break of their own.

2.  Yet MS has lost billions overall in the business, so if MS making money for some reason makes you feel good about the 360 and how much fun it is...yeah, at least they are chipping away at their overall debt!  Convenient that at this moment you don't care so much about sales, but about profit.  Plus, recall that RRoD and other repair expenses are not included in the accounting for MS's electronic devices unit or whatever it's called.

You grin so much at the hopefulness of fanboys, I grin at worse hardware, expensive proprietary peripherals, slower sales, pay-to-play online, and an all-time $7billion loss in the gaming business. 

Note that I would only have posted as I did in my shorter post above, but hey, your spin needs some counterspin.

 

LOL faster than the 360 over the same period. how come I didnt hear this spin when the PS2 was outselling the Xbox.

Its called sunk costs.Look it up.

 



Lord N on 26 October 2009
nightsurge said:
steverhcp02 said:
Its PR i dont expect them to actually use logic.

But its generally hard to play catch up when the 360 had been on the market by itself for a year with no "next gen" console competition.

Oh well. Launches aligned PS3 > 360. Thats really all that matters to us who want to discuss or analyze console comparison sales like grown ups.

Flame bait thread from flame bait blog post.

Also, if you want to align launches, I can also say that since the PS3 launched, the Xbox 360 has outsold it every year and the gap from launch (of just 5.5 million) has kept increasing (which if the console was really doing better it would be eroding that from the get go).  Aligned launches is a red herring and completely moot.  Don't ever try to bring up something as silly and useless as that again.

Also, this blog has it wrong.  The Xbox 360 outsold the PS3 by ~800,000 units for the entirety of 2008.

And finally, as has been stressed many times to all the ignorant posters in this thread, he is speaking of NPD, aka USA sales of which the 360 is already above the PS3 Slim again, just as the PR person said....

It's also silly and useless for MS to keep bringing up what in their own words is "the last place console" to prove that the 360 is doing well. It's also funny that they only mention N. America and ignore the other two major markets where they are in last place.

Outselling the "last place console" by a mere 2 million units over three years isn't anything to cartwheels about, either.

 



 

Consoles owned: Saturn, Dreamcast, PS1, PS2, PSP, DS, PS3

leo-j on 26 October 2009

Keep on with your crap microsoft, you are going to make me want to sell my 360



 

mM
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crumas2 on 26 October 2009

Sounds more petty than harsh. We need to toughen you guys up a little so you have thicker skins.




huaxiong90 on 26 October 2009

It never ceases to amaze me how people take PR way too seriously.



Rockstar: Announce Bully 2 already and make gamers proud!

Kojima: Come out with Project S already!

darthdevidem01 on 26 October 2009

I find it funny people are saying SONY fans are VERY sensitive & hard to annoy JUST BECAUSE they said MS is being arrogant

on the other hand the SAME PEOPLE are bringing up arrogant SONY statements from 3 - 4 years ago.....why?

I think we can tell who's really being sensitive here



All hail the KING, Andrespetmonkey

leo-j on 26 October 2009
huaxiong90 said:
It never ceases to amaze me how people take PR way too seriously.

they have been with the same crap since last year, they keep hitting the PS brand, its like SEGA with nintendo back in the day..



 

mM
joshin69 on 26 October 2009
scat398 said:
The comment didn't seem bad at all, but whats with the mistatment by the blogger saying the 360 and the ps3 sold the same in 2008. If you want to over hype someone's fairly harmless remark, atleast don't look like a fool by throwing out bad numbers to support your claim.


according to the numbers on this site over 2008 the 360 sold around 871,795 more units than the PS3. Just thought you could do with the numbers if you are to berate someone for bad numbers



 

 assumption is the mother of all f**k ups