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Dead Space Extraction is a MAJOR flop - we need to talk about it

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Steroid said:
Let us speak plainly.

Money talks. And when Carnival Games outsells Punchout, The Counduit, House of the dead Overkill, Dead Space: Extraction, No more Heroes, Tales of Symphonia, Okami and Fire Emblem COMBINED what sort of a message do you think that sends to third party developers?

Too bad there's no data on World of Goo though (Wii's only AAA rated third party exclusive).


And despite that, many core games are still on the Wii and many core games are coming to the Wii. I wonder how that must work out for you :(


Yeaaaaaaaaaah....I don't think companies are so close minded that one exception puts them down like you'd like (hope) to believe.




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ShadowSoldier said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:

Third parties just don't get it, Wii gamers like quality, we have Nintendo, so all that stuff that PS360 fans are willing to stomach just won't fly on the Wii, you want to sell on the Wii you have to be as good or better than Nintendo, you have to bring the fun

You do realize that 360 and PS3 gamers have more quality games then the Wii right? Even when you factor in Exclusives the Wii is last for number of games that have over 90+ on metacritic. Its not about us Stomaching anything, we have an abundance of quality.

Reviews, metacritic , do you really think most consumers care about reviews?  Have ever heard of metacritic?  The market doesn't care if a game is highly reviewed, its why games like Wii sports can be poorly reviewed, but be one of the most well recieved games of all time, people had Wii parties because of Wii sports, and cared not one bit whether some reviwer gave it a bad review, those same people would probably get bored of a game like dead space in minutes.



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

'no *poing* sound when you jump = low sells on the Wii'.

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Avinash_Tyagi said:
ShadowSoldier said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:

Third parties just don't get it, Wii gamers like quality, we have Nintendo, so all that stuff that PS360 fans are willing to stomach just won't fly on the Wii, you want to sell on the Wii you have to be as good or better than Nintendo, you have to bring the fun

You do realize that 360 and PS3 gamers have more quality games then the Wii right? Even when you factor in Exclusives the Wii is last for number of games that have over 90+ on metacritic. Its not about us Stomaching anything, we have an abundance of quality.

Reviews, metacritic , do you really think most consumers care about reviews?  Have ever heard of metacritic?  The market doesn't care if a game is highly reviewed, its why games like Wii sports can be poorly reviewed, but be one of the most well recieved games of all time, people had Wii parties because of Wii sports, and cared not one bit whether some reviwer gave it a bad review, those same people would probably get bored of a game like dead space in minutes.

Weren't you banned few hours ago?



Soriku said:
Steroid said:
Let us speak plainly.

Money talks. And when Carnival Games outsells Punchout, The Counduit, House of the dead Overkill, Dead Space: Extraction, No more Heroes, Tales of Symphonia, Okami and Fire Emblem COMBINED what sort of a message do you think that sends to third party developers?

Too bad there's no data on World of Goo though (Wii's only AAA rated third party exclusive).


And despite that, many core games are still on the Wii and many core games are coming to the Wii. I wonder how that must work out for you :(


Yeaaaaaaaaaah....I don't think companies are so close minded that one exception puts them down like you'd like (hope) to believe.

 

What is that based on and what does that mean?



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Other mature games that sold "bad" on the wii...

Resident Evil 4 : Over 1,60 M
Red Steel: Over 1,2 M
Call of Duty 3 and WaW: Over 1,3 M
The House of The Dead 2, 3 Return: Over 1M
The House of the Dead Overkill: Over 400k (in less than a year)
Resident Evil UC: Over 1, 2 M
Metroid prime 3: Over 1,5 M

And other list of games that are not gore games but are mature as well like:

Guitar Hero series
Mario
Zelda
Pro evolution Soccer 2008
Sonic series
Monster Hunter
etc.

And with mature games on the horizon like No more Heroes 2, Silent Hill, Red Steel 2, Final Fantasy, Call of Duty Reflex, Fragile, Avatar, Tatsunoko Vs Capcom, Resident Evil Darkside Crhonicles, etc,

Obviously, not all mature games sell well on the wii, but a lot of them sells very very well. So please, EA, promote Dead Space, because people buy games only if they know that exists.



Such a shame. I bought it as I love the Dead Space universe.

The game is a total joy for a fan of the series and elevates on rail shooters to a new level.

Its really immersive and the graphics are stunning for the Wii.

If this means that there will be no more content like this put out by EA then Im disappointed.



MarioGalaxy said:
Other mature games that sold "bad" on the wii...

Resident Evil 4 : Over 1,60 M
Red Steel: Over 1,2 M
Call of Duty 3 and WaW: Over 1,3 M
The House of The Dead 2, 3 Return: Over 1M
The House of the Dead Overkill: Over 400k (in less than a year)
Resident Evil UC: Over 1, 2 M
Metroid prime 3: Over 1,5 M

And other list of games that are not gore games but are mature as well like:

Guitar Hero series
Mario
Zelda
Pro evolution Soccer 2008
Sonic series
Monster Hunter
etc.

And with mature games on the horizon like No more Heroes 2, Silent Hill, Red Steel 2, Final Fantasy, Call of Duty Reflex, Fragile, Avatar, Tatsunoko Vs Capcom, Resident Evil Darkside Crhonicles, etc,

Obviously, not all mature games sell well on the wii, but a lot of them sells very very well. So please, EA, promote Dead Space, because people buy games only if they know that exists.

How many of the games you listed are indeed rated M?

Red Steel, Call of Duty, and Metroid Prime are not rated M, which was the crux of the argument. I'd advise you understand what a mature rated game is before you start spouting off inaccuracies.



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DirtyP2002 said:

Hey guys,

I thought we need to talk about this:

*Wii game*

DirtyP2002 collection sez:

madskillz said:

I was checking out a couple topics, in the MS section, and I see posts from folks that own a PS3, but not a 360.

Interesting.

Now, folks can see where the OP is coming from, huh? If I go into the Nintendo forum and see a person constantly posting there and they own a PC and a PSP, what in the world can they tell me?

 




noname2200 said:
DirtyP2002 said:

Hey guys,

I thought we need to talk about this:

*Wii game*

DirtyP2002 collection sez:

madskillz said:

I was checking out a couple topics, in the MS section, and I see posts from folks that own a PS3, but not a 360.

Interesting.

Now, folks can see where the OP is coming from, huh? If I go into the Nintendo forum and see a person constantly posting there and they own a PC and a PSP, what in the world can they tell me?

 



It's a sales site. You don't need a console in order to be able to discuss demographics and sales figures. I wouldn't trust an idiot who owned a console over someone intellegent who didn't own that console.