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I don't think 2 million is a flop. Also people are craving a racing sim and this game is right on time. I think it will do fairly well, bundled or not



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kowenicki said:
@carl

I have not seen anyone say that Forza3 will get 7m sales.



No one expects Forza 3 to sell that much.  

 

@Carl

Killzone 2 was hyped for half of a decade, to say forza 3 is on par with that is absurd.  Even if Turn 10 is hyping it (afterall that is their job isn't it)?  The simple fact is their are way more Sony supporters here and for some reason F3 scares them some.  And if they can try and make it look bad they will. 



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Forza 3 was announced in June, Killzone 2 was shown at E3 2005. Yeah, that's clearly the same amount of hype. I have to wonder about you guys.



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I found a thread for you with a bunch of predictions ~7 Million.

And you better be happy aswell, i had to pause Uncharted 2 to find this thread.

http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=81928



                            

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@ damndl0ser:

"F3 has no where near the hype killzone 2 got and will probably outsell it before bundling (maybe by the end of this year)."

The part in brackets is simply impossible. Ultimately though, discussion along these lines is impossible because it's already been leaked that F3 will be bundled.

"I can only imagine what kind of uproar that would happen if M$ decides to bundle this heavily and it ends up outselling GT 5. I would laugh so hard."

Even with extreme bundling, there is no way F3 could ever outsell GT5.



1337 Gamer said:
with good marketing it will sell 2.5M+ with no bundling. But if its bundled we could see an easy 4M+. There are probably alot more racing fans that own a 360 now than there were when forza 2 was released.


true im an example i jumped in in summer 2008 and i am getting limited edition of forza 3 though i never played forza 2 and i also bought the microsoft wheel for forza.

i am expecting 3.5mil-6mil without bundling and with bundling i dont know



 

 

elticker said:
1337 Gamer said:
with good marketing it will sell 2.5M+ with no bundling. But if its bundled we could see an easy 4M+. There are probably alot more racing fans that own a 360 now than there were when forza 2 was released.


true im an example i jumped in in summer 2008 and i am getting limited edition of forza 3 though i never played forza 2 and i also bought the microsoft wheel for forza.

i am expecting 3.5mil-6mil without bundling and with bundling i dont know

What have you been smoking that you think 6mil without bundling is in any way feasible?

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Carl2291 said:
damndl0ser said:
Are some of you comparing Forza 3 hype with that of something like KillZone 2? Jeez some of you guys are pathetic. F3 has no where near the hype killzone 2 got and will probably outsell it before bundling (maybe by the end of this year).

Even if your a fanboy I don't see how 2 million sells could be called a flop. So much bias at this site its shameful. So what kind of sales does F3 have to have to not be considered a flop by fanboys? That of GT?

I can only imagine what kind of uproar that would happen if M$ decides to bundle this heavily and it ends up outselling GT 5. I would laugh so hard.

It's not really pathetic when you think about it.

Fanboys hyped up Killzone 2 to be PS3's Halo-big FPS.

Turn 10 AND fanboys are hyping Forza 3 to completely outdo Gran Turismo in every aspect.

People are bound to think with all the hype and trashtalk, expecially from Turn 10 temselves... It will be hitting at least 6-7 Million, maybe more when it is compared to Gran Turismo.

That's just the way it is. As for 2 Million not being a flop, i agree with you on that one.

"every aspect"?...Seriously?! lol... wow, you never fail. The fanboys MAYBE (very few in regards the "every aspects argument") but Turn 10? No... It's one think to call out the fanboys, but to group them with the developer, that's a desperation move, lol. If i was to group the PS fanboys on this site alone...let's not even go there.



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Carl2291 said:
damndl0ser said:
Are some of you comparing Forza 3 hype with that of something like KillZone 2? Jeez some of you guys are pathetic. F3 has no where near the hype killzone 2 got and will probably outsell it before bundling (maybe by the end of this year).

Even if your a fanboy I don't see how 2 million sells could be called a flop. So much bias at this site its shameful. So what kind of sales does F3 have to have to not be considered a flop by fanboys? That of GT?

I can only imagine what kind of uproar that would happen if M$ decides to bundle this heavily and it ends up outselling GT 5. I would laugh so hard.

It's not really pathetic when you think about it.

Fanboys hyped up Killzone 2 to be PS3's Halo-big FPS.

Turn 10 AND fanboys are hyping Forza 3 to completely outdo Gran Turismo in every aspect.

People are bound to think with all the hype and trashtalk, expecially from Turn 10 temselves... It will be hitting at least 6-7 Million, maybe more when it is compared to Gran Turismo.

That's just the way it is. As for 2 Million not being a flop, i agree with you on that one.

"every aspect"?...Seriously?! lol... wow, you never fail. The fanboys MAYBE (very few in regards the "every aspects argument") but Turn 10? No... It's one think to call out the fanboys, but to group them with the developer, that's a desperation move, lol. If i was to group the PS fanboys on this site alone...let's not even go there.

Just to give you a couple of my fave's...

http://www.thatvideogameblog.com/2009/06/09/gran-turismo-dropped-the-ball-forza-there-to-pick-it-up/ "Dropped the ball"?

http://playstationlifestyle.net/2009/06/08/forza-developer-accuses-gran-turismo-series-of-being-stagnant/ "Stagnant"?

But on the "Every aspect" part. Sure, i over-reacted. But Turn 10 sure aren't the saint's you make them sound to be.