It is time for Shigeru Miyamoto to retire (Malstrom)

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Erik Aston on 18 October 2009

Malstrom's "motivation for the site" is not what he says. His ASPIRATIONS are to learn about business so he can start his own and be rich. But he clearly is not motivated to do that.

He has been "wrapping up the site" for months and months (years?), with no new articles, just tons of blog posts. He does not connect the dots from the games industry, or the newspaper industry or anything else he mentions, to a business he could potentially start himself, and frankly he would not necesarily learn how to START a business by studying a 100-year established titan like Nintendo. And what do 30+ posts about game music have to do with his claimed motivations?

In reality, he clearly has a lot of motivation to follow the games industry obsessively, and write about it obsessively, and advocate for non-gamers or new gamers who he identifies with, and see if he can get a reaction from people. He's basically a forum-dweller, except he has leveraged his well-earned reputation from predicting Wii's success to create this no-feedback-except-by-email blog where he can totally control the conversation.

He is very intelligent, and often very insightful, and brings up points no one else does, and if he didn't, he wouldn't get so much attention. I would honestly say he is one of the top 10 voices to listen to or blogs to follow in all of gaming; no one else will shout "death to the industry" as loud as they can. But he does not make sense only as "guy who wants to learn about business"; he is also "guy who loves to read his own writing and get a reaction from people."

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The Ghost of RubangB on 18 October 2009

liquidninja said:

The Ghost of RubangB said:
Mario vs. Donkey Kong: Minis March Again is a full single player game. It just happens to have a level editor on the side, like Smash Bros. Brawl or Mario vs. DK 2 did. No big deal. Also, the game's only $8.

I just looked up Flipnote Studio on Wikipedia. It's FREE.

I don't see where Nintendo is ripping off the consumer with User Generated Content anywhere here. Unless you believe Malstrom's right when he says that Wii Music alone marks the dawn of a new era of Nintendo bent on its own destruction. What's Nintendo going to do? Fire all their artists and stop making art so they can just make UGC-only games? Because the only person here asking Nintendo to fire any artists is Malstrom.

I don't think we were talking about them ripping off anyone. It was weather or not Nintendo was headed towards focusing their games primarily around User Generated Content. Now it sounds to me like Miyamoto and Iwata were the main culprits in the past. But it seems like Miyamoto is still talking about doing it.

So Nintendo has made 2 games where the focus is on UGC. Wii Music, which sold a couple million and made a ton of money, but Miyamoto has said wasn't as successful as they'd hoped, and IF they pursue that direction again, they'll try to discover the disconnect and make it better. And Flipnote Studio, which is ABSOLUTELY FREE.

Please explain how this means Nintendo is heading in a direction towards focusing on more and more UGC, and please explain how this will be at the expense of their other games. Are we going to design our own Metroid? Our own Zelda? Wii Fit? Mario? Kirby? I'm calling bullshit. It's not gonna happen. Nintendo made casual games and people went "Oh no they're gonna stop making hardcore games!" and that was bullshit, as Nintendo is making more hardcore games than they ever have before, and faster. Now they made ONE SINGLE user-generated content game (and a small free downloadable art app), and you guys are going "Oh no they're gonna stop making content!"

Any time Nintendo tries anything new, a bunch of whiners claim they're gonna stop making traditional games. Any time Nintendo makes a traditional game, a bunch of whiners claim they're gonna stop trying anything new. Damned if you do, damned if you Nintendon't.

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liquidninja on 18 October 2009

The Ghost of RubangB said:

So Nintendo has made 2 games where the focus is on UGC. Wii Music, which sold a couple million and made a ton of money, but Miyamoto has said wasn't as successful as they'd hoped, and IF they pursue that direction again, they'll try to discover the disconnect and make it better. And Flipnote Studio, which is ABSOLUTELY FREE.

Please explain how this means Nintendo is heading in a direction towards focusing on more and more UGC, and please explain how this will be at the expense of their other games. Are we going to design our own Metroid? Our own Zelda? Wii Fit? Mario? Kirby? I'm calling bullshit. It's not gonna happen. Nintendo made casual games and people went "Oh no they're gonna stop making hardcore games!" and that was bullshit, as Nintendo is making more hardcore games than they ever have before, and faster. Now they made ONE SINGLE user-generated content game (and a small free downloadable art app), and you guys are going "Oh no they're gonna stop making content!"

Any time Nintendo tries anything new, a bunch of whiners claim they're gonna stop making traditional games. Any time Nintendo makes a traditional game, a bunch of whiners claim they're gonna stop trying anything new. Damned if you do, damned if you Nintendon't.

Well maybe they won't focus more on UGC, but Miyamoto seems very interested in doing more of those games.

All I know is it's a blue moon when Nintendo puts out new content. You seem to think that nobody wants them to try anything new. Well I would love for them to try something new in the content department. Over all they don't seem to think that people even want to buy new content.