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saicho on 12 October 2009
Pineapple said:

Setting expectations low? He's essentially saying that in 16 months, the game is likely to sell around 20 million. In other words; he's sort of saying that it could become the quickest selling title ever. Yes, how dreadfully modest Miyamoto is.

Look at it this way: The holiday quarter = the other 3 months combined nearly the other 3 quarters combined (it was 20M vs 24M last year).

NSMB will sell 10 million in 2 months of the holiday quarter, + 1 other quarter. That's essentially 3.5 quarters, if we claim that a year actually has 6 quarters.

In other words, year 2 will have 70% more sellingtime. So if NSMB Wii averages 40% less in its second year, it will sell 10 million more. And is it really "continuing to sell after even a year" if you drop by more than half your sales?

 

I'm reading this as him saying he believes it can hit 20 million by the end of the next FY. To my knowledge, that is the quickest any game has ever reached 20 million. Although Wii Fit/MKWii would have made it if they launched in the holiday period.

Yes, he's setting the expectations very low.

You should read again. Miyamoto never said NSMB Wii would sell 10 million copies in its first fiscal year. It was Iwata. You should direct your anger to someone else.

Also, if Mario Kart Wii is not an "evergreen" title, can you give me another example other than Wii Fit?



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Galaki on 12 October 2009

It doesn't matter how many millions it will sell, I will be 1 of them millions.



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mike_intellivision on 12 October 2009

Here are some facts

Mario Kart Wii is still selling well. A lot of games struggle to sell over its life what this 18-month title sells in a typical two week period (150k-200k).

In the last two generations -- 11 games have sold 10M. That's 5 PS2, 1 Xbox 360 -- and 5 Wii. So when NSMB-Wii reaches that plateau, it will give the Wii as many 10M sellers as the last two Sony and Microsoft consoles -- combined.

Some might question some of those games, but NPD tracks Wii Play and Wii Fit, so they stand. And if Wii Sports were sold alone, it is anticipated it would have sold about as well as it did in Japan (where it is) -- which is more than two owners out of five (which translates to over 20M in solo sales).

Mike from Morgantown



      


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Untouch on 12 October 2009

I think he needed to say something but couldn't think of anything so he said the most obvious thing ever.

That or he didn't mean it.



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Pineapple on 12 October 2009
saicho said:
Pineapple said:

Setting expectations low? He's essentially saying that in 16 months, the game is likely to sell around 20 million. In other words; he's sort of saying that it could become the quickest selling title ever. Yes, how dreadfully modest Miyamoto is.

Look at it this way: The holiday quarter = the other 3 months combined nearly the other 3 quarters combined (it was 20M vs 24M last year).

NSMB will sell 10 million in 2 months of the holiday quarter, + 1 other quarter. That's essentially 3.5 quarters, if we claim that a year actually has 6 quarters.

In other words, year 2 will have 70% more sellingtime. So if NSMB Wii averages 40% less in its second year, it will sell 10 million more. And is it really "continuing to sell after even a year" if you drop by more than half your sales?

 

I'm reading this as him saying he believes it can hit 20 million by the end of the next FY. To my knowledge, that is the quickest any game has ever reached 20 million. Although Wii Fit/MKWii would have made it if they launched in the holiday period.

Yes, he's setting the expectations very low.

You should read again. Miyamoto never said NSMB Wii would sell 10 million copies in its first fiscal year. It was Iwata. You should direct your anger to someone else.

Also, if Mario Kart Wii is not an "evergreen" title, can you give me another example other than Wii Fit?

My anger? What are you talking about?

What Iwata expects and what Miyamoto expects is sort of the same thing. I doubt Miyamoto tells people his own personal expectations, without at all consulting with other people in Nintendo. I can't think of a single time Nintendo have publically claimed something for a game, and fell far below it. There really is little difference between what Miyamoto and Iwata says.

And you're trying to prove me wrong on something I already admitted was incorrect 10 minutes before you posted. Why?



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Blacksaber on 12 October 2009
mike_intellivision said:
Here are some facts

Mario Kart Wii is still selling well. A lot of games struggle to sell over its life what this 18-month title sells in a typical two week period (150k-200k).

In the last two generations -- 11 games have sold 10M. That's 5 PS2, 1 Xbox 360 -- and 5 Wii. So when NSMB-Wii reaches that plateau, it will give the Wii as many 10M sellers as the last two Sony and Microsoft consoles -- combined.

Some might question some of those games, but NPD tracks Wii Play and Wii Fit, so they stand. And if Wii Sports were sold alone, it is anticipated it would have sold about as well as it did in Japan (where it is) -- which is more than two owners out of five (which translates to over 20M in solo sales).

Mike from Morgantown

WSR might make it before NSMB Wii does...



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saicho on 12 October 2009
Pineapple said:
saicho said:
Pineapple said:

Setting expectations low? He's essentially saying that in 16 months, the game is likely to sell around 20 million. In other words; he's sort of saying that it could become the quickest selling title ever. Yes, how dreadfully modest Miyamoto is.

Look at it this way: The holiday quarter = the other 3 months combined nearly the other 3 quarters combined (it was 20M vs 24M last year).

NSMB will sell 10 million in 2 months of the holiday quarter, + 1 other quarter. That's essentially 3.5 quarters, if we claim that a year actually has 6 quarters.

In other words, year 2 will have 70% more sellingtime. So if NSMB Wii averages 40% less in its second year, it will sell 10 million more. And is it really "continuing to sell after even a year" if you drop by more than half your sales?

 

I'm reading this as him saying he believes it can hit 20 million by the end of the next FY. To my knowledge, that is the quickest any game has ever reached 20 million. Although Wii Fit/MKWii would have made it if they launched in the holiday period.

Yes, he's setting the expectations very low.

You should read again. Miyamoto never said NSMB Wii would sell 10 million copies in its first fiscal year. It was Iwata. You should direct your anger to someone else.

Also, if Mario Kart Wii is not an "evergreen" title, can you give me another example other than Wii Fit?

My anger? What are you talking about?

What Iwata expects and what Miyamoto expects is sort of the same thing. I doubt Miyamoto tells people his own personal expectations, without at all consulting with other people in Nintendo. I can't think of a single time Nintendo have publically claimed something for a game, and fell far below it. There really is little difference between what Miyamoto and Iwata says.

And you're trying to prove me wrong on something I already admitted was incorrect 10 minutes before you posted. Why?

So let me summarize what you are saying here.

Iwata says he expectes NSMB Wii to sell 10 millions which is the same thing as Miyamoto says it. And that makes Miyamoto a cocky bastard.

Does this make any sense to you?



MikeB predicts that the PS3 will sell about 140 million units by the end of 2016 and triple the amount of 360s in the long run.

The_Green_Knight on 12 October 2009

does anybody else notice how the word "Wii" in the title is tantamount to evergreen status? As if most people see it and say to themselves:

"Oh... that's a wii game and it has wii in the title so it must be good.."

.....and they usually are: Mario Kart Wii, Wii fit, Wii fit plus, Wii sports, Wii sports resort, Wii play.... Hell even Wii music sold over 1 million on that one word alone!

Mario galaxy didn't perform as an evergreen title because there was no "Wii" in the title; New Super Mario Bros. Wii is a guaranteed long-term success! look no further than the sales of New Super Mario Bros. on the DS



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Always Playing: Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Wii), SFIV (PS3), Mario Kart Wii

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Pineapple on 12 October 2009
saicho said:
Pineapple said:
saicho said:
Pineapple said:

Setting expectations low? He's essentially saying that in 16 months, the game is likely to sell around 20 million. In other words; he's sort of saying that it could become the quickest selling title ever. Yes, how dreadfully modest Miyamoto is.

Look at it this way: The holiday quarter = the other 3 months combined nearly the other 3 quarters combined (it was 20M vs 24M last year).

NSMB will sell 10 million in 2 months of the holiday quarter, + 1 other quarter. That's essentially 3.5 quarters, if we claim that a year actually has 6 quarters.

In other words, year 2 will have 70% more sellingtime. So if NSMB Wii averages 40% less in its second year, it will sell 10 million more. And is it really "continuing to sell after even a year" if you drop by more than half your sales?

 

I'm reading this as him saying he believes it can hit 20 million by the end of the next FY. To my knowledge, that is the quickest any game has ever reached 20 million. Although Wii Fit/MKWii would have made it if they launched in the holiday period.

Yes, he's setting the expectations very low.

You should read again. Miyamoto never said NSMB Wii would sell 10 million copies in its first fiscal year. It was Iwata. You should direct your anger to someone else.

Also, if Mario Kart Wii is not an "evergreen" title, can you give me another example other than Wii Fit?

My anger? What are you talking about?

What Iwata expects and what Miyamoto expects is sort of the same thing. I doubt Miyamoto tells people his own personal expectations, without at all consulting with other people in Nintendo. I can't think of a single time Nintendo have publically claimed something for a game, and fell far below it. There really is little difference between what Miyamoto and Iwata says.

And you're trying to prove me wrong on something I already admitted was incorrect 10 minutes before you posted. Why?

So let me summarize what you are saying here.

Iwata says he expectes NSMB Wii to sell 10 millions which is the same thing as Miyamoto says it. And that makes Miyamoto a cocky bastard.

Does this make any sense to you?

You should read again. My post is a response to the person posting 3 posts (or 2) above me. I'm not saying Miyamoto is a cocky bastard in any way. Not being modest isn't the same as being a cocky bastard in any way.



saicho on 12 October 2009
Pineapple said:
saicho said:
Pineapple said:
saicho said:
Pineapple said:

Setting expectations low? He's essentially saying that in 16 months, the game is likely to sell around 20 million. In other words; he's sort of saying that it could become the quickest selling title ever. Yes, how dreadfully modest Miyamoto is.

Look at it this way: The holiday quarter = the other 3 months combined nearly the other 3 quarters combined (it was 20M vs 24M last year).

NSMB will sell 10 million in 2 months of the holiday quarter, + 1 other quarter. That's essentially 3.5 quarters, if we claim that a year actually has 6 quarters.

In other words, year 2 will have 70% more sellingtime. So if NSMB Wii averages 40% less in its second year, it will sell 10 million more. And is it really "continuing to sell after even a year" if you drop by more than half your sales?

 

I'm reading this as him saying he believes it can hit 20 million by the end of the next FY. To my knowledge, that is the quickest any game has ever reached 20 million. Although Wii Fit/MKWii would have made it if they launched in the holiday period.

Yes, he's setting the expectations very low.

You should read again. Miyamoto never said NSMB Wii would sell 10 million copies in its first fiscal year. It was Iwata. You should direct your anger to someone else.

Also, if Mario Kart Wii is not an "evergreen" title, can you give me another example other than Wii Fit?

My anger? What are you talking about?

What Iwata expects and what Miyamoto expects is sort of the same thing. I doubt Miyamoto tells people his own personal expectations, without at all consulting with other people in Nintendo. I can't think of a single time Nintendo have publically claimed something for a game, and fell far below it. There really is little difference between what Miyamoto and Iwata says.

And you're trying to prove me wrong on something I already admitted was incorrect 10 minutes before you posted. Why?

So let me summarize what you are saying here.

Iwata says he expectes NSMB Wii to sell 10 millions which is the same thing as Miyamoto says it. And that makes Miyamoto a cocky bastard.

Does this make any sense to you?

You should read again. My post is a response to the person posting 3 posts (or 2) above me. I'm not saying Miyamoto is a cocky bastard in any way. Not being modest isn't the same as being a cocky bastard in any way.

I did read. Your posts on this thread were criticizing Miyamoto for something Iwata said.

If you don't think claiming NSMB Wii will sell 10 million copies this fiscal year is modest, it's perfectly fine. However, what does that have to do with Miyamoto if he never said such thing?

Just because you said "What Iwata expects and what Miyamoto expects is sort of the same thing... There really is little difference between what Miyamoto and Iwata says." does not mean you can put what Iwata said as what Miyamoto said. In such case, I can apply the same logic and say "What Jack Tretton expects and Kaz Hirai expects are sort of the same thing... There really is little difference between what Tretton and Kaz says." So when Jack says something stupid, I could just call Kaz an idiot. That's basically what you did.

 

 



MikeB predicts that the PS3 will sell about 140 million units by the end of 2016 and triple the amount of 360s in the long run.