| GameOver22 said:
The CPU is a componant within a PC, is part of the grouping of componants and software that creates the PC as a whole, a machine that is optomized to do many things. Not a machine that is optimized to perform one task.A TV is technically a console (although not a gaming console obviously) because it exists for one main purpose, watching TV, while it can perform other tasks, these are limited in form, and in number.
Where are you getting the fact that consoles must be optimized to perform one task? I do not see this declared in the definitions you provided, but I might be missing something.
My point about the CPU is that a CPU is a console according to definition #2, (or at least it seems to me). Also by your definition of PC, it appears a PS3 would fit this definition becasue it accepts data (input/information), performs operations (reason for the cell processors), and displays results (outputs/image). Honestly, I agree with your main point that a PC is built to perform more tasks. I just think it needs to be clarified with the use of better definitions.
I use the term console, and gaming console interchangeably because it was my impression that everybody would know that when I said "console" I was refering to the term "gaming console" however, I see that is not the case. from here on out to avoid further confusion, I will only use the term "Gaming Console"
I understood your distinction. It can just cause some confusion because you supplied separate definitions for console and gaming console and then used gaming console and console interchangeably. Its not a big deal because I still could recognize your argument, but it helps an argument to have consistency.
Lastly, your CD argument is flawed, thats like me saying the PC is just a CD player, not a computer because happen to be listening to a CD. Also, may I point out that even though a console can perform other tasks, it's main task is playing games, that initially what they are built for, they cannot perform other tasks like drafting, designing, writing essay papers, running a powerpoint presentation etc.
Maybe you can clarify this for me because I do not see the flaw. Your point is that you can take a PC that is used for gaming and also use it for drafting, therefore a PC can perform tasks outside of gaming. I am using an analogy to apply this relationship to a PS3. I use my PS3 for gaming, but I can also turn it on tomorrow and use it as a blu ray player, cd player, web browser, and whatever other functions people can use it for. Because of this, a PS3 can be used for purposes outside of gaming, and it performs the functions adequately (not so much as a web browser in my experience though). My point is that, like a PC, the PS3 can be used for functions outside of gaming, and, especially in the case of blu-ray, it appears to be optimized for this function (I would say the same could be said for the CD functionality of the PS3 although I do not use it). For clarification, I am using an analogy and not a definitive example.
On anothe note, I do see why you used the gaming/drafting example. It just shows that PCs have multiple functions, and the purpose is not changed by utilizing separate functions.
My intent is not to prove that a PC is not a gaming platform, Please tell me where I have even suggested this. Infact, I believe I said in an earlier post that the pc was a platform and a viable gaming option, you are reading to much into this my friend. There are people who deny that the PC is not a gaming console, (for proof, just read some of the earlier posts) and they are the reason I have made this thread.
I do not think I ever said you claimed a PC was a gaming platform. I just think this is the argument you should attack because it is the stronger argument. It is easy to attack the argument that a PC is not a gaming console because a PC can exist outside of gaming. I did not go through all the post, but it seems most people do agree that a PC is not a gaming console although some people disagreed with how you arrived at this conclusion. In my case, I already considered a PC as a non-gaming console prior to reading your argument. It is just a matter of function. PCs can exist outside of gaming whereas I would argue a PS3 would not exist as we define it without gaming. This does not mean the PS3 could not perform other functions. It just means the current definition of the PS3 reqquires the existence of gaming.
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