That is enough, that shit does not belong in this thread. If you wish to discuss it, make a new thread.

look i bought gears for pc, i didn't have to pay 360 for it.
the moment 2 platfroms compete for sales, it's no longer exclusive.

the importance of exclusive it's because u can't get the game anywhere and you need the console.

you only can play killzone 2 on the ps3. or uncharted 2.

but i don't need a 360 to play  gears, halo 2, or left 4 dead.

Of course the PC is not a console, its better in pretty much every way shape and form!

A PC gives you not only a superior gaming platform (should you wish it), but a completely open system where you can create and download mods for games, not to mention all the little freeware apps people keep making for everything under the sun. Consoles are owned by a coporate entity that holds the rights to the platform and can restrict whatever they want. Yes you can have mods on PS3, but only because Sony says its OK. On PC its completely down to the individual developer to create the kits for moders to do their thing. And even when they don't, if its popular enough, the clever people of the internet can do some extraordinary things.

Furthermore, you're not restricted to a single control method, yes you can play with the superior and intuitive controls of keyboard & mouse, but if you prefer you can always use a 360 controller or another 3rd-party controller.

Then of course their is the fact that I can use my PC to do work... and when I'm bored of that I just need to double click and icon and I'm in game! Actually... I'm not sure if that's a plus...

Finally, you can always upgrade your PC, once you have a console, you can't improve the graphics to the next standard, you have to wait for the next closed-system console to come out.

Oh yeah... and PCs have bittorrent.

Once again, not where this thread is going, It's pretty black and white. IS TEH PC A CONSOLE OR NOT? Do you understand that? Say yes or no. I do not want to, and WILL not discuss anything sales related because that will just start fanboy wars, and I really don't need that shit in my thread. If you cannot answer the question then GTFO, is that clear???

I think you should try to be a bit more polite to the people who waste their time with your strange thread, ironman.

No, I refuse to be polite to the trolls that are here just to derail it for their own fanboy pleasures. That is unacceptable and I will not tolerate it.

Now, how about you, PC a console, or not?

I already stated earlier in this thread that I've never met anyone who claimed that a PC is a console.

The PC was my first gaming platform about 19 years ago and it's still my favourite.

PC is way more than a simple console. Nowadays consoles are more complete and do more functions than the consoles of previous generations, but that still doesn't detract from the fact that they are primarly and foremost a gaming device, and are created and optimized as such.

PC is a massive multi-task hub, in my laptop I do the following: Create Molecules using proper biochemical programs, create scientifical articles with intrinsicate and complex algorthims and codification, do DOS programing for my friends who want to Retro-game, create LAN servers using my laptop as a private proxy, play everything from the NES era to the PS2, GC and DS, browse the internet and optimize the performance of my laptop with freeware programs that cannot be found for any console.

So yeah, a PC is by no way and possibility a console, is something much more, and it has to be treated differently than a console.

I will apply the principle of charity with your argument on this one becuase there are some flaws in it. First, you are using console and video game console interchangeably. Even based on your definitions, the CPU of a PC is a console. You leap to saying a console is designed for a singular task while this is not contained in the definition. There are multiple tasks a telvision can perform depending on how you want to describe the situation (it has audio and video output for example). Overall, I think you are arguing that a PC is not a gaming console though, so I am still following you there. Second, the definition you give for gaming console is extremely limited. A gaming console has processors that process inputs and produce outputs, just like a computer (maybe someone more computer literate can help me on this). The claim that a gaming console uses a television is also spurious, but this could be corrected by just saying monitor instead.

The other primary problem I have with your agument is just one of consistency. You say PCs and gaming consoles have specific purposes because they are designed. This means what defines a gaming console or PC is independent of what it is actually used for; it just depend on what it was designed for. If I accept this premise for the sake of argument, then you cannot, as you later do, change a "gaming rig" into a "drafting rig" just by mere action. You would have to alter the purpose of it by redesigning it. Using this logic, I could turn my PS3 from a gaming console into a CD player tomorrow, but I would argue I am not changing anything. I am just using the PS3 to perform one of the many functions it was designed to do.

Overall, I would agree that a PC is not a gaming console but not based on your argument. The differentiation between the two is really just one of definition, and this really makes it an empty argument. A PC does not necessarily need to be used for gaming purposes, so it cannot be a gaming console. It is pretty easy to imagine of a computer that is not used for gaming purposes. I do not think there is much debate surrounding the point because you are reducing it to a straw-man argument. As others have pointed out, the stronger argument to attack would be whether a PC is a gaming platform, and I think you would be hard-pressed to prove that a PC is not a gaming platform.

A PC is not a console. But consoles are really not consoles anymore either thanks to the apps, internet, and movies. I would say the "console" died with the GameCube.