Expectations are easy to meet when you don't announce what they are.

Yes it's flopped... by any standard...

twingo said: only flop imany of you peeps views. Had sony shipped 1m and sold 5% that be a flop, they knew it would not be a PS3 slim type seller. Aren't their rumors of the next psp upgrade, so its not like they ever saw GO as taking over from the umd psp. Go is a experiment.

So what you are telling me is that units shipped vs. units sold decides whether it is a flop or not? That is the most asinine thing I have ever heard.

Well, it's not losing money so it must be a flop relative to expectations then.

What were you expecting for a handheld only $50 cheaper than the PS3 that retailers around the world refused to carry?

Expectations: So we now agree Madworld and NMH flopped then? I mean... after all it did meet those devs expectations but that's just spin now isn't it.

360: So if the 360 sold 30k in NA after a revision would it be a flop? You're damn right it would be. PSP Go sold more than PSP. The 360 revision would have sold less than its other model.

My question is, what is the standard we are holding the PSP go to? Until that is defined, this conversation will go round and round with no end in site.

ironman said: My question is, what is the standard we are holding the PSP go to? Until that is defined, this conversation will go round and round with no end in site.

I say we hold it to the a premium PSP model standard... that's obviously the most logical. Example: Elite to the Pro. 60 gig to the 40 gig. And right now... the Go sold as much or more than the 3000 in both territories we know of... that's pretty good

Its just a test? What? What a monumental waste of money if it only a test.

Well yeah, 30k looks really terrible no matter which way you look at it.

letsdance said: ironman said: My question is, what is the standard we are holding the PSP go to? Until that is defined, this conversation will go round and round with no end in site. I say we hold it to the a premium PSP model standard... that's obviously the most logical. Example: Elite to the Pro. 60 gig to the 40 gig. And right now... the Go sold as much or more than the 3000 in both territories we know of... that's pretty good

So...How do we know the premium was not a flop...What was the standard for that model?

ironman said: letsdance said: ironman said: My question is, what is the standard we are holding the PSP go to? Until that is defined, this conversation will go round and round with no end in site. I say we hold it to the a premium PSP model standard... that's obviously the most logical. Example: Elite to the Pro. 60 gig to the 40 gig. And right now... the Go sold as much or more than the 3000 in both territories we know of... that's pretty good So...How do we know the premium was not a flop...What was the standard for that model?

Well, for me I'd say reaching a quarter of the PSP buyers would be pretty good. I'm not saying 25% increase either... more like if the PSP Go sales were included in the sales on the front page than 25k units would be pretty good with 75k being 3000's. I don't expect a HW increase either. Considering the go is still marketed at to the same people... people who want a PSP. Seriously, if anyone was expecting it to raise PSP sales they should ask themselves why. There is no incentive like the slim which was smaller and cheaper. It's still targeting the same market... there is no reason to think it will increase PSP sales. It's to increase sonys profits per each unit sold. (I'm talking about when the initial bump levels out. The psp will go back to about 100k)