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Hus said:
atma998 said:
 


Now I think YOU should listen some basic facts :

The best selling GT (GT3) didnt even reach 15 million LTD on a 135M userbase when the franchise was far more popular.

GT5:P is at 3.22M, was HEAVILY bundled in some region and didnt have a lot of competition when it was released. GT PSP flopped hard.

For the first time of its history GT have a huge competitor in the name of Forza 3 which should take some of its sales LTD.

LMAO at GT as biggest exclusive this gen... Do you ever heard of games like Wii Sports? Wii Fit? Mario Kart Wii? Wii Sports Resort? New Super Mario Bros. Wii? Halo 3?

As for Japan, if a game like MH3 which is one of the most popular franchise in Japan right now struggle to sell over a million, there is no way a game like GT5 could ever reach 2 million of sales there.

Those are basic facts...

Good to see the same old ignorance on vg.

GT3 sold on a 120 130 140 million user base LMFAO by the time PS2 stops selling, you sad fanboys will say GT3 only sold 14.8 million on a +200 million user base HA.

GT3s succesor came out when PS2 was around 60 million, can you understand that you sad fanboy.  GT3 NEVER sold to a 135m user base just WHAT THE HELL is so hard to understand about this.   Is such simple math to much for kids these days. 

Forza2 came out before GT5p why was it not competition yet F3 will be to GT5 ? ehh hypocrite. 

MH3 was on the wrong console. WII ish stuff sales on the wii not real games.   MH does bet on PSP hell it even did pathetic sales on the PS2 with its huge user abse.   And correction MH3 struggled to sale 1 million... ON THE WII!!!  MHfu sold 3.5 million on the psp. 

Your "facts" are fanboy twists and foolish opinions.  Thus they are not facts. 

You think PS2 will reach 200 million and that GT3 is still selling and you dare call me a fanboy? Man, this is ban worthy. I see you have some difficulty to face the truth.

MH3 was on the wrong console...yeah right like GTA:CW was on DS I suppose. Sorry but you failed.



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Hus said:
jarrod said:

 

GT5 Prologue would actually be the first GT this gen.  Which is probably (in part) why it's numbers are so inflated.

The best selling racer this gen (and actually ever) is Mario Kart Wii.  That won't be changing.

GT4p did 1.5m with no NA release and very little support.  So GT5p is hardly inflated, its just happens that a $40 demo from PD is better then most full games.

Mk wii is no racer, if it is then Twisted Metal could be a racer. 

GT5P did over half it's Japanese sales due to free JP bundles.  It's sales were hugely inflated.

And going by your Mario Kart comments, I'm guessing you've never actually played the series?

 

Hus said:

MH3 was on the wrong console. WII ish stuff sales on the wii not real games.   MH does bet on PSP hell it even did pathetic sales on the PS2 with its huge user abse.   And correction MH3 struggled to sale 1 million... ON THE WII!!!  MHfu sold 3.5 million on the psp. 

It sold better on Wii than it would've on any other console, that's why it moved from PS3.  The other reasons they brought it to Wii were for the promised Nintendo push in the west and likely simpler PSP porting down the line.  Capcom's definitely been making the right moves with MH3.



atma998 said:
Hus said:
atma998 said:
 


Now I think YOU should listen some basic facts :

The best selling GT (GT3) didnt even reach 15 million LTD on a 135M userbase when the franchise was far more popular.

GT5:P is at 3.22M, was HEAVILY bundled in some region and didnt have a lot of competition when it was released. GT PSP flopped hard.

For the first time of its history GT have a huge competitor in the name of Forza 3 which should take some of its sales LTD.

LMAO at GT as biggest exclusive this gen... Do you ever heard of games like Wii Sports? Wii Fit? Mario Kart Wii? Wii Sports Resort? New Super Mario Bros. Wii? Halo 3?

As for Japan, if a game like MH3 which is one of the most popular franchise in Japan right now struggle to sell over a million, there is no way a game like GT5 could ever reach 2 million of sales there.

Those are basic facts...

Good to see the same old ignorance on vg.

GT3 sold on a 120 130 140 million user base LMFAO by the time PS2 stops selling, you sad fanboys will say GT3 only sold 14.8 million on a +200 million user base HA.

GT3s succesor came out when PS2 was around 60 million, can you understand that you sad fanboy.  GT3 NEVER sold to a 135m user base just WHAT THE HELL is so hard to understand about this.   Is such simple math to much for kids these days. 

Forza2 came out before GT5p why was it not competition yet F3 will be to GT5 ? ehh hypocrite. 

MH3 was on the wrong console. WII ish stuff sales on the wii not real games.   MH does bet on PSP hell it even did pathetic sales on the PS2 with its huge user abse.   And correction MH3 struggled to sale 1 million... ON THE WII!!!  MHfu sold 3.5 million on the psp. 

Your "facts" are fanboy twists and foolish opinions.  Thus they are not facts. 

You think PS2 will reach 200 million and that GT3 is still selling and you dare call me a fanboy? Man, this is ban worthy. I see you have some difficulty to face the truth.

MH3 was on the wrong console...yeah right like GTA:CW was on DS I suppose. Sorry but you failed.

Wow you are slow.  Mega fail.

why not anwser how GT3 never got to sale on a +120 million user base, yahh your type omit facts like that since it does not fit your opinion.   



Hus said:
atma998 said:
Hus said:
atma998 said:
 


Now I think YOU should listen some basic facts :

The best selling GT (GT3) didnt even reach 15 million LTD on a 135M userbase when the franchise was far more popular.

GT5:P is at 3.22M, was HEAVILY bundled in some region and didnt have a lot of competition when it was released. GT PSP flopped hard.

For the first time of its history GT have a huge competitor in the name of Forza 3 which should take some of its sales LTD.

LMAO at GT as biggest exclusive this gen... Do you ever heard of games like Wii Sports? Wii Fit? Mario Kart Wii? Wii Sports Resort? New Super Mario Bros. Wii? Halo 3?

As for Japan, if a game like MH3 which is one of the most popular franchise in Japan right now struggle to sell over a million, there is no way a game like GT5 could ever reach 2 million of sales there.

Those are basic facts...

Good to see the same old ignorance on vg.

GT3 sold on a 120 130 140 million user base LMFAO by the time PS2 stops selling, you sad fanboys will say GT3 only sold 14.8 million on a +200 million user base HA.

GT3s succesor came out when PS2 was around 60 million, can you understand that you sad fanboy.  GT3 NEVER sold to a 135m user base just WHAT THE HELL is so hard to understand about this.   Is such simple math to much for kids these days. 

Forza2 came out before GT5p why was it not competition yet F3 will be to GT5 ? ehh hypocrite. 

MH3 was on the wrong console. WII ish stuff sales on the wii not real games.   MH does bet on PSP hell it even did pathetic sales on the PS2 with its huge user abse.   And correction MH3 struggled to sale 1 million... ON THE WII!!!  MHfu sold 3.5 million on the psp. 

Your "facts" are fanboy twists and foolish opinions.  Thus they are not facts. 

You think PS2 will reach 200 million and that GT3 is still selling and you dare call me a fanboy? Man, this is ban worthy. I see you have some difficulty to face the truth.

MH3 was on the wrong console...yeah right like GTA:CW was on DS I suppose. Sorry but you failed.

Wow you are slow.  Mega fail.

why not anwser how GT3 never got to sale on a +120 million user base, yahh your type omit facts like that since it does not fit your opinion.   

Simply because the userbase increased massively during PS2 era and eventually reach 135 million. PS3 userbase will be lucky to ever reach half of that figure. Plus the major part of GT4 sales came within the first 2 years of sales. Nobody (or very few people) will care about GT5 in 2012.

Now why YOU don't aswer about all the bigger exlusives I listed in my previous post while you claimed GT5 as the biggest exlusive of the gen and about your silly 200 million PS2 prediction and GTA:CW? Do you still believe GT3 is still selling? Oh I see....you can't.



Are you really that dense ?

I was making fun your ignorance and that of many on here.

GT3 sold on 120 balhh balhh IT NEVER did, GT3 production stopped when its successor was coming out. You claim it sold 14.8 on 135 million but NO it did not, it sold what it did around the time PS2 got to 60 million.

i dont think PS2 will do 200 million, i just made fun that if it did a bunch of ignorant people would say GT3 only did 14.8m on a 200 million user base.

Gt3 sold what it did on a 60 million user base, face up to facts.



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Hus said:
Are you really that dense ?

I was making fun your ignorance and that of many on here.

GT3 sold on 120 balhh balhh IT NEVER did, GT3 production stopped when its successor was coming out. You claim it sold 14.8 on 135 million but NO it did not, it sold what it did around the time PS2 got to 60 million.

i dont think PS2 will do 200 million, i just made fun that if it did a bunch of ignorant people would say GT3 only did 14.8m on a 200 million user base.

Gt3 sold what it did on a 60 million user base, face up to facts.


60 millions is two times more the userbase of PS3 by the time GT5 get released. And you still doesnt answer all the other points...



..... GT3 came out on a 12 million user base.

or are facts like that omitted for convenience of your opinion.

GT5 will release on a 3 times bigger user base then GT3



Hus said:
..... GT3 came out on a 12 million user base.

or are facts like that omitted for convenience of your opinion.

GT5 will release on a 3 times bigger user base then GT3


Ok now I got your idea. But the thing is PS2 sold 25 million units by year  in average in the two years following GT3 release while PS3 is struggling to reach half of this number with a new slim model. Also you still ignoring the other points... now who's omitting facts for convenience of his opinion?



Hus said:
..... GT3 came out on a 12 million user base.

or are facts like that omitted for convenience of your opinion.

GT5 will release on a 3 times bigger user base then GT3

Hehe, atma998 OWNED.

atma998 said:
But the thing is PS2 sold 25 million units by year  in average in the two years following GT3 release

Also, how do you know, that PS3 won`t sell 25M per year following GT5 release? Came back from future? I see you as being only negative towards GT5 and PS3 sales. Even all facts in favour of GT you are trying to downplay. Why is that?



ZorroX said:
Hus said:
..... GT3 came out on a 12 million user base.

or are facts like that omitted for convenience of your opinion.

GT5 will release on a 3 times bigger user base then GT3

Hehe, atma998 OWNED.

atma998 said:
But the thing is PS2 sold 25 million units by year  in average in the two years following GT3 release

Also, how do you know, that PS3 won`t sell 25M per year following GT5 release? Came back from future? I see you as being only negative towards GT5 and PS3 sales. Even all facts in favour of GT you are trying to downplay. Why is that?

Why is that? Simply to be realistic. There is a difference between what you would like to happen and the reality. PS3 won't make a come back and GT5 won't reach 10 or 15 million. I don't have to be a fortune teller to know that, I just simply have to look at the market. There is no doubt GT5 will be a great AAA title but to think it will reach those type of numbers is just delusionnal.