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Citan said:
Oh I`m loving it. Oh yes. Me loves it. Oh oh oh yes.

what are you getting off with?



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Citan said:
Oh I`m loving it. Oh yes. Me loves it. Oh oh oh yes.

What are you loving? That the great american company is beating your favourite japanese company in sales and profit this gen?



De85 said:
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kowenicki said:
Thats a great headline, except for the fact it is wrong on both counts.

How is it wrong? elaborate. It's correct until proven otherwise. Microsoft said they were losing month on each console sold, and weakening sales is the statement of the article, didn't make it up, unlike your post.

No, the burden of proof is on whoever makes the assertion that they are losing money.   Multiple reports in the past have stated that MS makes a profit on each box, this blog seems to be the only one who believes differently.

Reports where about the whole XBox brand, and most probably Elites were already profiting in the past at $399 and are now too, even at $299, but nobody ever proved Arcades are profiting.



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a 4 yrs old console.. selling at a loss.. doesnt seem likely, especially since the reduction in chip size(s) etc. Id say MS is losing ore money on grabbing titles, and ads..They have enough plans in place to suck the consumers off money, LIVE, HDD, wifi etc..

Losing money? after 4 yrs? It would seem a lil, well.. disturbing..



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arsenicazure said:

a 4 yrs old console.. selling at a loss.. doesnt seem likely, especially since the reduction in chip size(s) etc. Id say MS is losing ore money on grabbing titles, and ads..They have enough plans in place to suck the consumers off money, LIVE, HDD, wifi etc..

Losing money? after 4 yrs? It would seem a lil, well.. disturbing..

If they are losing money, it may be on the arcade, combined with the amount of repairs made on 360's. Other than that, IMO the Elite is profitable.



Alby_da_Wolf said:
De85 said:
Mr_Power said:
kowenicki said:
Thats a great headline, except for the fact it is wrong on both counts.

How is it wrong? elaborate. It's correct until proven otherwise. Microsoft said they were losing month on each console sold, and weakening sales is the statement of the article, didn't make it up, unlike your post.

No, the burden of proof is on whoever makes the assertion that they are losing money.   Multiple reports in the past have stated that MS makes a profit on each box, this blog seems to be the only one who believes differently.

Reports where about the whole XBox brand, and most probably Elites were already profiting in the past at $399 and are now too, even at $299, but nobody ever proved Arcades are profiting.


Problem is that the report claims Xbox sales are weaking this qtr (end September 30th).  360 sales this quarter are very near what they were last year.  Then add the fact that the SKU that had a price reduction was the SKU that is clearly profitable.  So the ratio of Arcade to Pro/Elite would be leaning more towards the clearly profitable SKU.  Then you add in a game in September that is 1st party and may hit 3 million before end of the month.



Its libraries that sell systems not a single game.

I would love to see this Anaylist Curtis Shauger's source on the 360 consoles losing money per console sold. In fact he doesn't include any sources what so-ever. Hmmm... Hey guys I just analyzed Sony and found out they are actually bankrupt and in debt by $300B yen and lose $2,450 per PS3 sold...

Source, you say? I don't need one, I'm an analyst



@arsenicazure:
PS3 Slim is ALMOST breaking even at $299, so, as Xenon costs a little less than Cell and DVD a little less (production cost, I mean, what MS and Sony pay) than BD, I'm pretty sure XB360 Elite is doing a little profit at $299 (and at $399 it was huge), but HDD and little else have an industrial price smaller than $100. It's not a proof, I know, but people believing Arcade is profiting never proved it too, and the analogy I just wrote is more in favour of my belief than theirs.



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thx1139 said:

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Problem is that the report claims Xbox sales are weaking this qtr (end September 30th).  360 sales this quarter are very near what they were last year.  Then add the fact that the SKU that had a price reduction was the SKU that is clearly profitable.  So the ratio of Arcade to Pro/Elite would be leaning more towards the clearly profitable SKU.  Then you add in a game in September that is 1st party and may hit 3 million before end of the month.

But in fact, I don't agree with that analyst, I don't question overall profitability of the brand, I just think it's LIKELY that if there are still losses on HW, they are only on Arcades.



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