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tedsteriscool said:

k...seriously this is getting VERY old.

 

I think people who say MGS4 isn't a game and is an "interactive movie" or any variation need to be immediately banned. It's incredibly annoying and offensive to the great game that MGS4 really is (It got 10/10s for a reason!).

 

UGH. Reported.

Noooooo what he was saying is that once you skip all the stupid cutscenes, like the armless guy stopping the battleship with his back whilst standing on a crumbling pier to save snake you'll see that the length of gameplay is actually about the same.

Then you have to think about what the respective games offer, multiplayer? Well we knows who wins that. Graphics? Again only Xbox 360 exclusives win these comparisons. Gameplay? The fact that you have coop means that your incredibly social Xbox fans are going to rate down another solo experience on the PS3.

Why so serious?

 



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wow, saying something bad about ps3 games AFTER playing them means ban here? nice. guess you would ban noobtoob community too since they had simillar complaints about Killzone 2 and MGS4(and they permaban you on their forums after one fanboy style comment no mater about what system/game it is) - so much for free speech here.

and consider also the fact that Edge is british magazine(if i'm correct) so they reviewed 40$ Halo game - 9/10 for this game is fair score considering the whole package and price.



I always love Edge review. I might not always agree with them, but they are usually right on the money, and with well written review. In their mag, the number are small on the bottom of the review and you can always feel free to ignore them.



Wow a 9 is pretty good for ODST. I got a bad feeling about Uncharted 2 though. Prediction Uncharted 2 5-6/10.



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reask said:
@ twesterm
Not so sure on your theory about hyped games getting better reviews.
Would that not mean games like uncharted and gears are never going to get fair reviews because of hype?
I use these games as examples only.

My point been that the Halos and COD,s of this world are built on more than hype and in fact have more to live up to because of that?
I mean the general consensus was prior to the release of ODST was 7 to 8 reviews.
I seem to remember certain members willing to eat crow if scores were high.

Just my take on it.

I think, speaking for Twes for a moment because I think reading his comments we see it the same way, that hype and a known brand will likely see slightly better reviews provided the game isn't bad.

The reason is that with a known brand, Halo, CoD, etc. the reviewer's job is both easier and the game is such as known quantity - they will therefore tend to review vs the brand's standards.  For example, Halo on console is just seen as great, 9 out of 10, by the majority of reviewers.  ODST comes along and the review is more of a checklist vs previous titles - short, tight campaign with memorable moments, check, good level design with a few terrible ones that no one can fathom, check, great MP, check, Halo specific 'feel' for the combat, check, good AI, check...  I mean, I could have told you before ODST released that it would have great combat in Halo tradition, good set-pieces, strong MP, etc.  mainly because it was obvious that in the main it was going to stick to a very know, tried and trusted formula that I know very well.

The end result is therefore going to be another 9 out of 10 for many reviwers.

A hyped new ip faces a different struggle - the one you're referring to I believe, where it needs to be really good or it will probably be marked slightly down for failing to meet expectations.  In those cases the hyped title does have more to live up to, and if it's new it doesn't have an established level in the reviewers head - 'this should probably be a 9/10 title' for example.  If the new ip is taking risks in terms of established gameplay mechanics, etc. then it's chances of coming a cropper are even higher.

Now, thinking on this further, some sites will mark down the big brand for this reason (but only a few) - giving something like ODST 8s and 7s and saying it's not different enough, etc.  Some I think will be doing so fairly, others just to grab some attention.

I think that it's probable that Edge has simply done this more with PS3 titles than 360 so far - prpobably just down to each reviewer's feel and approach.  So whoever scored MGS4 (as an example) was looking for more changes to the formula than they got, and less of other changes, such as the huge cutscenes, whereas whoever reviewed ODST was looking for the Halo checklist and got it on a silver plate.

What the figures on Edge reviews show, I think, is that their approach to titles has been somewhat inconsistent, and that this has happened to fall acorss the two platforms, PS3 and 360.  I don't believe they deliberately 'mark down' PS3 titles nor mark up 360 titles, but the evidence of their variation vs other review averages indicates to me that their PS3 reviewer is using a slightly different critera vs their 360 reviewer, which is producing results more at odds with the average.

 

 



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MetalGearSolid_4ever said:
I really dont understand their bullshit bias... I mean why ? they gave LBP a high score for being innovative...
so their review system = innovation gets more points ?
how come they are harsh to almost all games and call them mediocore then ? - (bioshock, killzone etc)
their review system is completely changed when it comes to Halo and COD.


Well from what Ive played so far ODST is the best single player Halo experience yet. And with full Halo 3 multiplayer and new modes there is every reason for this game to score high. Also it's £15 cheaper than normal releases yet longer than alot of full retail games. I have no idea what price some reviewers thought the game was????!!!!!

Halo 3 ODST £34.99

Normal 360 game releases £49.99



@ Reasonable.
I understand where you are coming from OK.
I would just like to add that I bought the game this morning and have spent about an hour on firefight.
It is a ball I tell you.
I will wait till later to try campaign.
Well worth 45 Euro IMO.



 

 

 

 

really you guys really didn't think ...xbox the offical magizne<----(longer way to say EDGE) wouldn't give this a 9........



reask said:
@ Reasonable.
I understand where you are coming from OK.
I would just like to add that I bought the game this morning and have spent about an hour on firefight.
It is a ball I tell you.
I will wait till later to try campaign.
Well worth 45 Euro IMO.

Cool, I'll be trying it out soon myself.  How does the Hub element feel to you?  Does it work well in a Halo title?



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Reasonable said:
reask said:
@ Reasonable.
I understand where you are coming from OK.
I would just like to add that I bought the game this morning and have spent about an hour on firefight.
It is a ball I tell you.
I will wait till later to try campaign.
Well worth 45 Euro IMO.

Cool, I'll be trying it out soon myself.  How does the Hub element feel to you?  Does it work well in a Halo title?

Yeah it feels ok.

Bloody tough game so far.

I am on heroic setting, man if this gets tougher I am goosed lol,

The Brutes are Brutes if you pardon the pun.

I would say you will like it OK.