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Onimusha12 on 17 October 2007
kber81 said:
Situation of Wii is obviously still very good but this system isn't sold out because of name any more. It needs games. I don't think Mario Galaxy will solve all problems. Brawl is delayed. It definitely won't help. PS3 struggled with lack of solid game library for 9 months. Now the drought is over. Price is much lower. Sale goes up. All people who think Nintendo wins holidays by wide margin will be disappointed. It will be close run because all players have solid offer. New PS3 sku in Japan will sell extra 30k-50k because of colour alone. In States $399 will attract many users. Hmm... yes, something is over. Domination? yeah, I guess so.

Wasn't the PS3 drought suppossed to have been over with Lair and Heavenly Sword? Maybe its just bad rain huh? And how are we sure this price cut will be any different than the last with the exception of the fact its not in the US and now there is no reverse compatibility.

I'm sorry Kber, this is the kind of talk we've been hearing from Sony enthusiast since the PS3 launched. Everytime something good happens for the PS3 we're to believe this time will be the time that it takes off, everytime the Wii has a set back we're to believe this time will be the time it stays down for the count. You're perfectly entitled to your opinion, just don't get your hopes up or think that having cried wolf so many times doesn't carry with it a gradual nullification of your credibility. No offense but why should we listen to the same people who told us the Wii would be a flop (then a fad) and that the PS3 would dominate from launch onward (then it would dominate after drought ended with motorstorm).



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Neos on 17 October 2007

Seriously, libellule is such an incredible fanboy, it's not even funny
i don't know why leo-j wants to get banned on purpose, maybe he wanna hit on a girl irl :>.

/start fanboy rant.

otherwise, i would re-direct you to john lucas's post, which says it all. This is just the start. ps3's fanboys just want to gather some hope collected by each other, supporting each other, damn that just sounds familiar to last gen..(GC). We'll let the numbers do the talking when nintendodomination actually begins, starting in less than a month.

/end fanboy rant

atleast i notify when i do that.



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*~Onna76~* on 17 October 2007
libellule said:
What are PS3's big guns this Christmas?

PES that is all

Er, how about Ratchet & Clank Future? I think that game will sell better than a PES, as its targeting on a much larger group of gamers. To me its one of the most wanted Western releases on the PS3. Well its easy as there aren't many of them, except an Oblivion GoTY Edition looks very interesting to me.

And WTF WII a cheap gadget? I'm sorry, I see a much bigger list of interesting games on the WII to my taste than on the PS3 and that what counts to me when I buy a console "games". I don't give a crap about technology.



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mancandy on 17 October 2007
libellule said:
The Wii is a sort of cheap Gadget.
Nothing more, nothing less.
It is why people where buying it.

The PS3 is a gadget too but it is really more expensive than the Wii.

People were buying the Wii because of the hype behind the console and the low price. There were also the Nintendo fans that were the only fan to have access to their console (when Xbox360/PS3 were still too expensive).

The boss from Famitsu stated recently than 67% of Wii owners dont play the Wii anymore. It fits with the fact that a large part of the Wii owners are casual gamers that dont invest a lot in game and that are occasionaly interested in 1-2 party game like Wii Sport and Nintendo fan that simply dont have enought "hardcore games" to play.

If Nintendo focus on more mature games (metroid prime) and if third party decide to make more mature game too (why dont release multiplateform game on the Xbox360/Wii/PS3 like) then the Wii will definitively take the lead with a line-up that will cover EVERY TYPE OF GAME and please to all gamers.

I bet if You take the 50 most anticipated game coming in the next 12 months :
3 PS3 games
3 Xbox360
3 PC games
22 multiplateform games PS3/Xbox360/PC
9 Wii games

==> 25 games for the PS3/Xbox360 vs 9 Wii games

Wii need these multiplateform games too !
Assassin Creed/GTAIV/SC4 (the real one)/RE5 (the real one)/CoD4 etc ...
What does any of this have to do with the topic? Seriously...are you lost?

 



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libellule on 17 October 2007

I dont know why you call me fanbody Neos.
...

and I m not lost, I just think Nintendo should move a little their ass cause the price difference between the wii/Xbox360/PS3 will never stop to decrease.

And yes Wii is a cheap gadget when the PS3 is an expensive one.

And yes PES on PS3 will do better than Ratchet in PAL country. I dont know for WW.

But I may be completely wrong ...



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kber81 on 17 October 2007
Onimusha12 said:
kber81 said:
Situation of Wii is obviously still very good but this system isn't sold out because of name any more. It needs games. I don't think Mario Galaxy will solve all problems. Brawl is delayed. It definitely won't help. PS3 struggled with lack of solid game library for 9 months. Now the drought is over. Price is much lower. Sale goes up. All people who think Nintendo wins holidays by wide margin will be disappointed. It will be close run because all players have solid offer. New PS3 sku in Japan will sell extra 30k-50k because of colour alone. In States $399 will attract many users. Hmm... yes, something is over. Domination? yeah, I guess so.

Wasn't the PS3 drought suppossed to have been over with Lair and Heavenly Sword? Maybe its just bad rain huh? And how are we sure this price cut will be any different than the last with the exception of the fact its not in the US and now there is no reverse compatibility.


I've said the drought is over so I don't understand about what you are actually talking about. Price drop will be different because $499 - > $399 is more friendly than $599 - > $499... BTW new sku hits US on 10.28. Your assumption that former price drop wasn't important is worth a good laugh. PS3 was selling around 20k a week before (US), now it keeps around 30k. With further price drop we will see permanent boost  to  45k - 50k a week.



Onimusha12 on 17 October 2007
kber81 said:
Onimusha12 said:
kber81 said:
Situation of Wii is obviously still very good but this system isn't sold out because of name any more. It needs games. I don't think Mario Galaxy will solve all problems. Brawl is delayed. It definitely won't help. PS3 struggled with lack of solid game library for 9 months. Now the drought is over. Price is much lower. Sale goes up. All people who think Nintendo wins holidays by wide margin will be disappointed. It will be close run because all players have solid offer. New PS3 sku in Japan will sell extra 30k-50k because of colour alone. In States $399 will attract many users. Hmm... yes, something is over. Domination? yeah, I guess so.

Wasn't the PS3 drought suppossed to have been over with Lair and Heavenly Sword? Maybe its just bad rain huh? And how are we sure this price cut will be any different than the last with the exception of the fact its not in the US and now there is no reverse compatibility.


I've said the drought is over so I don't understand about what you are actually talking about. Price drop will be different because $499 - > $399 is more friendly than $599 - > $499... BTW new sku hits US on 10.28. Your assumption that former price drop wasn't important is worth a good laugh. PS3 was selling around 20k a week before (US), now it keeps around 30k. With further price drop we will see permanent boost  to  45k - 50k a week.

(What you didn't respond to)

I'm sorry Kber, this is the kind of talk we've been hearing from Sony enthusiast since the PS3 launched. Everytime something good happens for the PS3 we're to believe this time will be the time that it takes off, everytime the Wii has a set back we're to believe this time will be the time it stays down for the count. You're perfectly entitled to your opinion, just don't get your hopes up or think that having cried wolf so many times doesn't carry with it a gradual nullification of your credibility. No offense but why should we listen to the same people who told us the Wii would be a flop (then a fad) and that the PS3 would dominate from launch onward (then it would dominate after drought ended with motorstorm).



kber81 on 17 October 2007
Onimusha12 said:

(What you didn't respond to)

There is nothing worth my respond. Do you want me to talk about my credibility? I'm not the one to judge... or maybe this piece of crap about domination is worth further discussion? You can spin it as you want but with every single solid game and price drop PS3 gains some ground. It has the most room to deliver and it will. And yes... I think wii can't match PS3/X360 and it will be out of steam soon. I believe new multiplatform games will show PS3 is superior system to X360... CoD4 is a good start. Don't cross out PS3 so easily. 


Onimusha12 on 17 October 2007
kber81 said:
Onimusha12 said:

(What you didn't respond to)

There is nothing worth my respond. Do you want me to talk about my credibility? I'm not the one to judge... or maybe this piece of crap about domination is worth further discussion? You can spin it as you want but with every single solid game and price drop PS3 gains some ground. It has the most room to deliver and it will. And yes... I think wii can't match PS3/X360 and it will be out of steam soon. I believe new multiplatform games will show PS3 is superior system to X360... CoD4 is a good start. Don't cross out PS3 so easily. 

And to you don't cross out Wii or 360 so easily.

I guess it was silly of me to expect you to see the cycle you're playing yourself into again. Yet at the same time its trollish of me to expect you not to have any ambitions at all or silence your hopes. All I would ask is that you be a little more cautious in your early praise.



libellule on 17 October 2007

""""""""" I believe new multiplatform games will show PS3 is superior system to X360... CoD4 is a good start. Don't cross out PS3 so easily. """""""

==> about multiplateform gaming better on PS3, I think it is a little bit too early to say PS3 is owning the Xbox360 :
too many game delayed + bad port (Skate on PS3 frame rate is insane)



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