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sebnod said:
Sony has TV, amplificators, LCD, Plasma, Blu Ray and many others. Sony has Music and movies majors and Sony has, PS2, PS3 and PSP, and Michael Jackson. They no need to put MJ in other hardwares. It will be a storm for PS3, Halo is nothing in front of that.


Sony don't have MJ, he left them years ago, all they can do is re-release his old songs over and over again until the rights revert fully to the Jackson estate possibly sometime soon. (I'm not sure exactly how long they have them for, not that long though, a few years at the most. MJ would have had full ownership sooner if it wasn't for a crooked lawyer of his who unbeknownst to MJ was also working against him with Sony.) Just look at the (FAKE!) This Is It album Sony are releasing. I guess they got some kind of publishing rights to the song This Is It when they made the deal for the movie but apart from that and the spoken poem Planet Earth the rest of the album is just old songs in the order they were going to be performed in the concert plus unreleased versions of other old songs. That's why it's fake because MJ's real This Is It album was going to be a whole new album. (Actually he was going to release 2 albums, a regular album and an instrumental album of various styles of music he composed.) Sony can't release the real album though because it's got nothing to do with them. (And I hope the Jackson estate doen't make anymore deals with Sony! They should find another record label or release new and old-but-unreleased music independently.) That's why Sony also hated MJ, this was going to be the first tour, album and everything else without them since they bought Epic back in 1988, yet MJ owned HALF of ALL Sony/ATV's music publishing rights. Now Jackson's estate owns that 50% and you can bet Sony will try anything to get them back. And just incase anyone thinks that's a "notorious lie" read this:

 

After Jackson's acquisition of ATV Music Publishing, his record label, CBS, were negotiating the sale of their record division in an unrelated deal. Following hurriedly arranged meetings and disagreements over the selling price, a deal was sealed by Jackson during a concert in Tokyo. Upon seeing the success of this sale, Japanese corporation Sony sought to break away from its core business of hardware manufacturing and diversify into music, films and games. Looking for further opportunities, the company aimed to expand its music publishing interests. The Japanese corporation offered Jackson $90 million for 50% of ATV Music Publishing in 1995. Jackson gladly accepted; he had essentially acquired half ownership of the Beatles' songs for a large profit. Jackson's own songs were not included in the deal. Having been merged, the company was renamed Sony/ATV Music Publishing and became the third largest music publisher in the world. Michael P. Schulhof, President and CEO of Sony, welcomed the merger and praised Jackson for his efforts in the venture. "Michael Jackson is not only the most successful entertainer in history; he is also an astute businessman. Michael understands the importance of copyrights and the role they play in the introduction to new technologies." He added that Jackson recognises Sony's "leadership in developing and realizing new technologies that serve to expand the creative horizon of artists such as himself".Administrative expertise was provided by Sony, who installed Paul Russell as chairman. Jackson was a company director and attended board meetings regularly. As each party in the arrangement held the power of veto, both sides would have to agree on a decision before it could be made. If neither party agreed on a decisions, they would not be implemented.



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i doubt people will buy a ps3 just for this



This game doesn't exist. Both this and SingStar: U2 were based on a fake French release list that surfaced two months ago. It was shortly thereafter debunked by SCEE. No retailer that I can find has a listing for such a game (just check Amazon UK), and chances are somebody simply uploaded a fake boxart to our game database.



superchunk said:
Ryusuken said:

@Superchunk

Sorry, but your last comment makes little to no sense, at all. Why should/whould Sony make a game, one that carters for the masses, for the friggin competition????? Do you really think Sony, or Nintendo, or MS WHOULD EVER do that?

And, if Sony is in so much trouble as you think they are, how the heck they can manage a price cut? Even if it was damn straight necessary, they could go making whatever small profit they were making with it before the price cut.

So....making A EXCLUSIVE FOR PLAYSTATION platform with MJ is logical, is maximizing their profits and damn straight saying:

 "YOU WANT IT??BUY A PS2/3 TO PLAY IT!!!!!

PS- did you even know Sony is the developer of SingStar???? Thanks Soriku for point that one.

Last edit, I am out.

MJ's music is owned by Sony Music. Therefore Sony Music can hire anyone they want to make a game for it. Having Sony's gaming division make a SingStar game is stupid and limiting the potential revenue it could make from having it made on a different developer's label. That is my point. If you and SORIKU are so retarted you couldn't tell that was my point then ... idk really. It should have been obvious I didn't want Sony to make a Singstar game for Wii360.

Just like Spiderman and other Sony owned Movie IP's, let other's make the game and reap the profits. It should not be limited to PS3 userbase in SingStar.

1.  Don't insult people.  That's a serious no-no.  But this post is days old, so I'll let it slide.

2.  Initially you said Sony is stupid for making "this game", as in an iteration of SingStar, ps3 exclusive.  Of course they'd do that.  It's SingStar.

3.  Now you're saying that Sony shouldn't make MJ exclusive to ps3/SingStar.  If this game actually existed, it would be because the SingStar team sought out the rights to MJ.  Not because Sony Music decided to put MJ into SingStar.  Rock Band, Lips, or whoever could easily go to Sony Music and pay for licensing.  There's a SingStar Queen, but Queen also appears in both Guitar Hero and Rock Band.  There is nothing about this that would make MJ exclusive to ps3.  All it means is that a ps3 exclusive game happens to contain some MJ music (if it even exists)

You're getting riled up over nothing. 



makingmusic476 said:
This game doesn't exist. Both this and SingStar: U2 were based on a fake French release list that surfaced two months ago. It was shortly thereafter debunked by SCEE. No retailer that I can find has a listing for such a game (just check Amazon UK), and chances are somebody simply uploaded a fake boxart to our game database.

Serious, your game data base are not verified? I 'm going to ask someone working in a french retailer.



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nobodyspecial said:
Larad said:
nobodyspecial said:
MontanaHatchet said:
Sorry man, because you're a new member and all, but it's really sad if you believe that.


So you're saying that MJ is lying in the video?

Michael is a NOTORIOUS liar and quite horrible at it. It's hard to believe anything that comes out of his mouth.

A notorious liar? Give some examples. (Let me guess, you don't believe he had vitiligo? Do some research or simply ask the police doctor who examined MJ in 1993 and confirmed he had vitiligo but of course the media didn't exactly put that little FACT in the headlines did they?) You think he actually loved Sony then? So why did he dump them and speak out against them? Also I wouldn't be surprised if they're involved in his murder. Yes, I said MURDER as it's becoming more and more apparent that he was in fact murdered. If you want notorious lies just listen to the media, especially when it involves Michael Jackson. (And the government of course, no matter what it involves, lol!)

Doctors can be bought...If they couldn't, he wouldn't have had a stash of 100 grand worth of drugs in his home and wouldn't have died as he haa. Also, I guess you believe that he has had only had two plastic surgeries right? Two on his nose...Oh wait, but then in the late 80's he had already admitted to  2 plastic surgeries, one on his nose and one for a cleft on his chain...Bbbut...That means he has already had at least 3 by the time he admitted 2 in the Bashir documentary, by his own admission. Let's not even go into the plastic surgeon estimates of 60-70 (since you trust the word of doctors so much) or better yet let's play blind and believe that he has not tried to change his appearence more radically than almost anyone else on earth (save the catwoman). Even IF he did have Vitaligo, his lies about his lack of plastic surgery has done very bad for his credibility which is why no one believes that he infact had Vitaligo. He has gone to extremes to change his appearance, lie about the fact, so it really wouldn't be out of "character" for him to have bleeched his skin also in the pursuit of changing his looks. He cannot blame anybody but himself for the fact that no one believes his Vitaligo story or anything else coming from his mouth for that matter.

For the record I'm 50-50 on whether his Vitaligo is real or not, but if it weren't for his blatant and stupidly obvious lies about a lack of plastic surgery than I wouldn't have doubts about his "condition".

http://www.anomalies-unlimited.com/Jackson.html



@superchunk You have no idea what you're talking about.Allow me to enlighten you.

1. It makes perfect business Sense to make the MJ music exclusive to Singstar which is in turn EXCLUSIVE to the PS3. I myself own a Wii and would love to get this game or an MJ Rockband on my wii but knowing it might not happen, it will likely speed up me buying a PS3 for singstar. Seeing you being hysterical about this game not being on your wii proves sony right that they are making the right decision. It was their luck that they got an IP that could add value to their console and they should use it as such.

2. Lets say a game with MJ music on it sells 1 Mil copies worldwide if it was multiplat. 300k Would be on sony while 700k would be on other platforms. If even 60k More PS3s are sold as a result of the MJ-MUSIC IP being exclusive, it would make it more profitable for sony. This is as a result that 60k more people would buy the game for a Sony Console. Royalty Rights for 1 game would be at most $5 while profit for one game would be about $20 for an extra singstar being sold. Relatively speaking, if during their life time, if on average 50k of those console users buy either 4-5 games and movies on blu-ray, it would make the profit for sony exceed what it would have gotten by licensing the product.

3. From a marketing standpoint for Sony, allowing the contents to be exclusive on singstar gives it something much better than what 'lips' - The Video Game offers.

4. MJ-Music is a popular IP. It only makes sense for the MJ estate to make the game multi-plat as the direct profit from the licensing rights would go into their pocket. From Sony's standpoint, it makes sense to make it exclusive so that it generates more profit but in an indirect way that SONY can keep. Much like how it would have been great for Sony to have GTA:IV and Final Fantasy XIII being exclusive but Rockstar and Square-Enix thought it would be more profitable for them. Much like how if Sony didn't have control over the IP of LBP, it would have sold really well multi-platform.... millions more including on the Wii.

So all in all, Sony is absolutely right to Make 'Singstar' exclusive to the PS3 but also right to make the MJ-Music exclusive to 'Singstar' because if it wasn't, people would not be forced into buying a PS3. So count me day 1 buying a ps3 when Singstar MJ is released(if it is).




I am a Gamer... I play games and not consoles. I have a PC and Console on which I game... I like games. End of Story!

We should remove the game from the database if this 'game' is based on the leaked french article. VGchartz seems to be the only site that has this game in their database, and unless you guys have some kind of exclusive information about this game, it should be remove to reduce the confusion it is causing.



Larad said:
nobodyspecial said:
Larad said:
nobodyspecial said:
MontanaHatchet said:
Sorry man, because you're a new member and all, but it's really sad if you believe that.


So you're saying that MJ is lying in the video?

Michael is a NOTORIOUS liar and quite horrible at it. It's hard to believe anything that comes out of his mouth.

A notorious liar? Give some examples. (Let me guess, you don't believe he had vitiligo? Do some research or simply ask the police doctor who examined MJ in 1993 and confirmed he had vitiligo but of course the media didn't exactly put that little FACT in the headlines did they?) You think he actually loved Sony then? So why did he dump them and speak out against them? Also I wouldn't be surprised if they're involved in his murder. Yes, I said MURDER as it's becoming more and more apparent that he was in fact murdered. If you want notorious lies just listen to the media, especially when it involves Michael Jackson. (And the government of course, no matter what it involves, lol!)

Doctors can be bought...If they couldn't, he wouldn't have had a stash of 100 grand worth of drugs in his home and wouldn't have died as he haa. Also, I guess you believe that he has had only had two plastic surgeries right? Two on his nose...Oh wait, but then in the late 80's he had already admitted to  2 plastic surgeries, one on his nose and one for a cleft on his chain...Bbbut...That means he has already had at least 3 by the time he admitted 2 in the Bashir documentary, by his own admission. Let's not even go into the plastic surgeon estimates of 60-70 (since you trust the word of doctors so much) or better yet let's play blind and believe that he has not tried to change his appearence more radically than almost anyone else on earth (save the catwoman). Even IF he did have Vitaligo, his lies about his lack of plastic surgery has done very bad for his credibility which is why no one believes that he infact had Vitaligo. He has gone to extremes to change his appearance, lie about the fact, so it really wouldn't be out of "character" for him to have bleeched his skin also in the pursuit of changing his looks. He cannot blame anybody but himself for the fact that no one believes his Vitaligo story or anything else coming from his mouth for that matter.

For the record I'm 50-50 on whether his Vitaligo is real or not, but if it weren't for his blatant and stupidly obvious lies about a lack of plastic surgery than I wouldn't have doubts about his "condition".

http://www.anomalies-unlimited.com/Jackson.html

You are pathetic, you're saying that MJ "bought" the POLICE doctor? You know, those police who were investigating the BS abuse allegations under the orders of the infamous D.A. Tom Sneddon. (This was during the 1993 case, not the 2003 one although I'm sure he was examined again then.) I suppose he also "bought" all the people with vitiligo who have said they can tell he has it along with loads of doctors around the world who treat vitiligo and vitiligo organisations? Not to mention all the photographic proof that he has it. Maybe you think vitiligo actually doesn't exist and he went around the world "bleaching" peoples skin to make it look like other people have it too? LMAO! By the way, explain to me exactly how MJ could have made about 90%+ of his skin white? Doctors (that have nothing to do with MJ) have said it's impossible. You talk about "drugs", once again just spouting what the media says. Yes, medication can technically be called drugs but they were medication. As well as vitiligo MJ also had lupus since at least the Thriller era and at times depression, anxiety (is that surprising?), insomnia and dancer's feet. He also injured his back during the trial which caused him problems since as well as breaking his leg (and re-injuring the previous back injury) rehearsing last year. (Remember the pics of him in the wheelchair when the media claimed he was "dying"?) And lets not forget the second and third degree burns to his scalp and face that he suffered after the Pepsi advert accident. He NEEDED painkillers for the lupus alone as well as anti-depressants and anxiety medication at times. Yes, sometimes he became addicted to them but not as much as the media are trying to portray plus people close to him say he was being unknowingly over-medicated at times. Also he didn't die of those, he died of a fatal dose of propofol, an anasthetic (that you've probably had yourself if you've had an operation where they put you to sleep) he was using to sleep because of very bad insomnia. Of course it was a bad idea to use propofol to sleep, especially outside of a hospital but he was desperate to sleep and Dr. Murray shouldn't have administered it in the first place and should have taken him to the hospital for other treatment instead. Also the autopsy said that ALL MJ had in his system was what Dr. Murray gave him THAT NIGHT, other than the propofol was a number of sedatives that he claimed he was giving MJ to "wean" him off the propofol but when the first one didn't work he shouldn't have given him a load of others, he should have either just gone straight to the propofol (although he shouldn't have done that either as I said) and done it properly or taken him to hospital. There were NO other "drugs" in MJ's system plus when a nurse was treating MJ for insomnia using natural remedies from January until Easter (I think Easter was the last time she treated him) she said all his blood tests showed were low blood sugar. Anyway, going back to medication, haven't you ever had to have any? Don't you know people on medication? Are they "drug addicts"? I have to take anti-depressants and painkillers too due to a condition I've had for over a decade called M.E., am I a "junkie"? (I've never touched illegal drugs in my life and never would. I'm in my 30s by the way.) In fact many of the symptoms of M.E. are like many of the symptoms of lupus so I might know some of what he was going through. Although if he had those symptoms as bad as I do (my muscles ache, I'm nearly always weak, tired and exausted to the point that I'm housebound most of the time and can only get out about once or twice a month now, sometimes not for a few months!) then it's a miracle he managed to perform at all! I'm guessing he couldn't have had it quite as bad as that though, there's no way he could surely? Not surprising he took painkillers though is it? Just imagine being the greatest entertainer in the world and having a condition like that, he must have often needed treatment just to be able to perform and must have been in a lot of pain. 

OK, now about his surgeries (yeah, that link you posted that among other things compared MJ to Mr. Potato Head and The Creature From The Black Lagoon is really objective), you're actually right he did have a cleft put in his chin and even admitted to it in the past so I don't know why he didn't in the Bashir documentary. Maybe he just got confused because he was sick of all the questions or something. 1 mistake or even a purposeful lie does not make him a "notorious liar" though. As for his nose, I originally got confused too. I thought maybe he didn't count when he broke his nose so that was a "freebie" but even then his nose seems to have changed more than 3 times overall. I thought maybe it was because often got very thin and that made the nose smaller but it didn't sound plausible as it wasn't like he was fat before. So I thought it was very likely he had more surgeries but didn't want to admit it. No big deal except that his nose looked awful and I didn't understand why he would want it like that. Well after his death the mystery has been solved and the doctor that performed his "nose jobs" has revealed that he really did only have 2 "nose jobs" (up until just before his death, I'll explain in a sec) and that the further deterioration of his nose was a result of septal perforation from lupus where the cartilage collapses and affects both sides of the nose and is treated with cortecorsoids which further thins the surrounding skin. (This only happens to some lupus sufferers though, not all.) MJ was having his nose rebuilt before he died though, that's why it looks bigger and better in This Is It. (Unfortunately he was REALLY thin though, the thinnest he's ever been I think, so his gauntness took focus away from his better looking nose but just look at it again in pics or the trailer.) Here are some examples of lupus effecting noses (it can also effect other parts like mouths and ears etc) going from relatively minor to extreme. (Warning, those who are squeamish probably won't like these pics so I'll just post links to them.):

http://api.ning.com/files/E5qfhx3ltFok*taFdKiyohFnnnAE3-AfMitN3xSRmpyFx0SSoTFqa2Zsmg3gAY96uhYXQBqsAR9tf1MGvm3h0PHAN6N4PMJA/DISCOIDLUPUSERYTHEMATOSES.jpg

http://www.dermis.net/bilder/CD016/550px/img0004.jpg

http://www.dermis.net/bilder/CD021/550px/img0097.jpg

I do actually believe that he didn't have all the surgery people say he did because not only does turning white (if you're black, obviously) and changing your nose make you appear a lot different. See these pics of Nicole Kidman with a fake nose for a movie:

http://images.allmoviephoto.com/2002_The_Hours/TH_Nicole_Kidman_031.jpg

http://images.allmoviephoto.com/2002_The_Hours/TH_Nicole_Kidman_004.jpg

http://images.2dayfm.com.au/2008/07/16/38819/600x400-ENT-NicoleKidman-600x400.jpg

Also there's Jennifer Grey who famously became unrecognisble to casting directors after having a simple nose job causing her career to flop!:

 http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2006/10/30/nose_job_ruined_dirty_dancing_star_s_car

(It says in that article "nose job from hell" but it was actually a fine nose job, she just looked so different after it.)

But also changing hairstyles and especially weight changing made his face change a bit. People say he had his cheeks and jaw done (not counting the chin cleft) but it's simply becoming gaunt that brings these features out even more. MJ has always had big and high cheekbones and you can see his prominent jaw too in old pics if he happened to be particularly thin at the time of the photos/videos:

http://image.take40.com/342x456/michael_jackson_young_342x456_1979_wenn2046917.jpg

http://www.vasiliska.com/uploads/posts/2009-07/1247211703_mikk25.jpg

If you want more proof of it just watch Living With Michael Jackson again, the footage is chronological and you can see at the start MJ was very thin and his cheeks and jaw were very prominent but at the end of the documentary he wasn't quite as thin so wasn't quite as "boney" looking. (And watch the way the skin and muscle move around MJ's face, especially at the start, then look at celebrities with known plastic surgery beyond nose jobs and you'll see that their skin and muscle just doesn't move like that, it's very fixed and not very flexible.) Also MJ wore A HELL OF A LOT of make up after getting vitiligo. His face wasn't actually totally white all over, it had brown patches and uneven skin tone that he had to cover with make up and he had to use special make-up to cover all over that blocked the sun as he was extremely sensitive to it due the vitiligo. (Hence the umbrellas, masks and hats.) Plus of course the fact that he was almost 51 when he died. A 50 year old isn't going to look exactly like he did when he was 20 (let alone 11) is he? Lol! Check out this footage of him visiting the U.S. military in japan from 2007 where he look a lot stronger and healthier than in other photos and videos recently and a lot more like his old (as in young) self:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqYPyxsSH0Y

Finally it's well know that the media purposely use the worst photos and videos (poses, angles and lighting) possible when showing MJ and have even been known to doctor photos to make him look worse. Aphrodite Jones confirmed that there is in fact an anti-MJ policy in the media and that they don't want positive information about him. I'm not sure if this is the interview where she talks about the media's anti-MJ policy but it's interesting anyway:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIwehjDPOYU

I just want to open people's eyes to the truth since the media continue to smear MJ even after he died which is just disgusting.

 

 



11ht11 said:

i doubt people will buy a ps3 just for this

You'd be surprised...