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S.T.A.G.E. on 16 September 2009
Reasonable said:
Untamoi said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

As much as I hate Kaz Hirai this is the nail in the coffin for 360 in Japan. When Sony bundles a hot third party title it usually sells extremely well in the region it is destined for. It happened this gen with MGS4 increasing PS3 sales 180% in 2008. Sony has already had a 200%+ increase in sales with the price cut. Microsoft needs to pull out of hostile territory...........................now.

It would be horrible decision to leave Japan for MS now. If MS would leave Japan, it would also hurt european ja US sales badly. If they would suddenly announce that they would leave Japan, it would seem to consumers that 360 is doing terribly and their support for it is soon going to be cut and 360 sales would drop like a stone everywhere, even in USA. Consumers don't know much about console sales so news like that would have devastating effect on sales. Statements about continuing support elsewhere would have no effect because few actually trusts MS. And Japanese developers support would also weaken a lot which would affect software support and it would also weaken sales elsewhere. They simply can't leave Japan anymore even if sales are terrible.

You make a good point, and I could see that potentially worrying European gamers a triffle, but I do doubt that in US the average gamer would really worry that much.  The only major negative I see from a US perspective is that the 360 might well lose jRPG support almost totally, closing down the potential gaming demographics it could appeal to.

I do think that the Slim, FFXIII and GT5 are going to sink 360 in Japan in terms of relegating it to a very distant first, and I suspect that unless MS is willing to shell out serious money for the privillage you're going to see less timed exclsuives for games like ToV on 360.

But I don't think MS can pull out - from a simple revenue/cost basis I could see it making sense.  Funding new IPs, contracting for timed exclusives, etc. to scrape to 1M consoles really doesn't make sense - and I suspect if there was a P&L for Japan only for 360 it would be negative.  But in the bigger picture they have to stay there and keep pitching away.

Right now 360 is strong in US, established in Europe and weak in Japan.  If they pull out of Japan then I could see many European countries assuming the same might happen (as per your arguement) leaving the 360 really only entrenched in US by the generations end.

I guess MS will just have to look at Japan as a form of loss leader in their broader efforts globally.

 

Thats hilarious reasonable. Microsoft wouldn't leave Europe. If Microsoft poured half of what they poured into Japan into Europe financially, the Europeans would at least respond. The Japanese don't respond to outsider products if they have a home product that is either just as good or better. The outsider product has to be really, really good, or something they don't have.



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tedsteriscool on 16 September 2009

The apocalypse is near. I bet Sony sells more consoles in Japan in December than through the entirety (Jan-Nov) of the rest of the year in Japan.



S.T.A.G.E. on 16 September 2009
TT Makaveli said:
funny that STAGE post this...the guy who bet that FF XIII will not sell 1 mill in 1 week in Japan :D

LOL.....it wont.



S.T.A.G.E. on 16 September 2009
perpride said:
So, S.T.A.G.E., am I gonna win our bet or what???

Nope.



S.T.A.G.E. on 16 September 2009
CGI-Quality said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
V-r0cK said:
darthdevidem01 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Good news for MS, they will blow out the competition with MW2 sales. The bundle was announced. Big NA win for sure.

so a multiplat game which is a sequel to a game that went huge on the very same consoles (COD4) bundled with xbox 360's will blow the competition out of the water............ok

ALSO STAGE.....your prediction about FF13 not doing 1 million in 1 week.....well why did you do that as a bet?

Finally I agree....this will be BIG for PS3

they should have a FF13 themed ps3....500K of them

Its obvious STAGE is FPS blindness and been living under a rock if doesnt know the sucess of FF.

OT: FFXIII to be bundled with PS3? I did not see that coming lol jk.  This will definately sell more than Xbox360's MW2 bundle.

::@ comment in red::

That is a funny joke. A final Fantasy XIII bundle will never outsell a MW2 bundle. FFXIII will sell very well though.

Well, some analysts think the bundle couls help push some 500,000 PS3's in Japan.

http://www.pushsquare.com/6511/final-fantasy-xiii-could-shift-500000-japanese-playstation-3s/

You think the MW2 bundle could top that? I'm not saying the MW2 bundle won't sell. But there's a difference between an exclusive bundle for a multiplatform game, and an exclusive bundle for an exclusive game in the region where that game has been desired since the gen's opening. FFXIII is going to selll a TON of PS3s in Japan, I mean a TON!

Modern Warfare sold over 7 million copies on the Xbox 360 without a bundle. Without a bundle=murder.



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S.T.A.G.E. on 16 September 2009
CGI-Quality said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
CGI-Quality said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
V-r0cK said:
darthdevidem01 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Good news for MS, they will blow out the competition with MW2 sales. The bundle was announced. Big NA win for sure.

so a multiplat game which is a sequel to a game that went huge on the very same consoles (COD4) bundled with xbox 360's will blow the competition out of the water............ok

ALSO STAGE.....your prediction about FF13 not doing 1 million in 1 week.....well why did you do that as a bet?

Finally I agree....this will be BIG for PS3

they should have a FF13 themed ps3....500K of them

Its obvious STAGE is FPS blindness and been living under a rock if doesnt know the sucess of FF.

OT: FFXIII to be bundled with PS3? I did not see that coming lol jk.  This will definately sell more than Xbox360's MW2 bundle.

::@ comment in red::

That is a funny joke. A final Fantasy XIII bundle will never outsell a MW2 bundle. FFXIII will sell very well though.

Well, some analysts think the bundle couls help push some 500,000 PS3's in Japan.

http://www.pushsquare.com/6511/final-fantasy-xiii-could-shift-500000-japanese-playstation-3s/

You think the MW2 bundle could top that? I'm not saying the MW2 bundle won't sell. But there's a difference between an exclusive bundle for a multiplatform game, and an exclusive bundle for an exclusive game in the region where that game has been desired since the gen's opening. FFXIII is going to selll a TON of PS3s in Japan, I mean a TON!

Modern Warfare sold over 7 million copies on the Xbox 360 without a bundle. Without a bundle=murder.

Like I said, I expect the MW2 bundle to do good, quite good in fact, but not shift 500,000 consoles...

A modern warfare bundle + Xbox 360 during the holiday season= It could do more than that + sell higher. This is one of the highest grossing western titles.



Zuhyc on 16 September 2009
S.T.A.G.E. said:
TT Makaveli said:
funny that STAGE post this...the guy who bet that FF XIII will not sell 1 mill in 1 week in Japan :D

LOL.....it wont.

How much do you expect? (first day, first week, second week, total, ...)



S.T.A.G.E. on 16 September 2009
CGI-Quality said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
CGI-Quality said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
CGI-Quality said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
V-r0cK said:
darthdevidem01 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Good news for MS, they will blow out the competition with MW2 sales. The bundle was announced. Big NA win for sure.

so a multiplat game which is a sequel to a game that went huge on the very same consoles (COD4) bundled with xbox 360's will blow the competition out of the water............ok

ALSO STAGE.....your prediction about FF13 not doing 1 million in 1 week.....well why did you do that as a bet?

Finally I agree....this will be BIG for PS3

they should have a FF13 themed ps3....500K of them

Its obvious STAGE is FPS blindness and been living under a rock if doesnt know the sucess of FF.

OT: FFXIII to be bundled with PS3? I did not see that coming lol jk.  This will definately sell more than Xbox360's MW2 bundle.

::@ comment in red::

That is a funny joke. A final Fantasy XIII bundle will never outsell a MW2 bundle. FFXIII will sell very well though.

Well, some analysts think the bundle couls help push some 500,000 PS3's in Japan.

http://www.pushsquare.com/6511/final-fantasy-xiii-could-shift-500000-japanese-playstation-3s/

You think the MW2 bundle could top that? I'm not saying the MW2 bundle won't sell. But there's a difference between an exclusive bundle for a multiplatform game, and an exclusive bundle for an exclusive game in the region where that game has been desired since the gen's opening. FFXIII is going to selll a TON of PS3s in Japan, I mean a TON!

Modern Warfare sold over 7 million copies on the Xbox 360 without a bundle. Without a bundle=murder.

Like I said, I expect the MW2 bundle to do good, quite good in fact, but not shift 500,000 consoles...

A modern warfare bundle + Xbox 360 during the holiday season= It could do more than that + sell higher. This is one of the highest grossing western titles.

Remains to be seen, but I don't think it will.

My point was that the Xbox 360 was finished in Japan once FFXIII launches. If GT 5 launches in 2009 it will outsell the FF bundle period. MW2 is a given.



RPG on 16 September 2009

WOW I am in shock and awe at this information, never thought FFXIII would be bundled with PS3's in Japan. Had to see it to believe it.

S.T.A.G.E you don't stand a chance in that bet you made. I can only hope it is a perma-ban bet. :P



 

darthdevidem01 on 16 September 2009

STAGE I really want to know your FF13 lifetime & 1st Week predictions



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