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GRAN TURISMO PSP Eurogamer Review -- 7/10 (FALL from grace for GT)?!

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ZenfoldorVGI said:
CGI-Quality said:
 

I'm not defending the game. However, I am calling you out for calling a game bad that you have YET to play...

Oh, you mean because I said:

This is now a company that has made a game that isn't good, and they can NEVER change that.

Ah, I see.

What I said was accurate, and not hipocritical.

I wasn't impling that I had actually played the game.

I was actually referring to the reputation of the games developers in that sentence, and its change due to commonly held belief.

You see, this critical concensus will be used as a measuring stone in future articles outlining developers who have never made a "bad" game.

Like the one posted the other day.

However, because of this turn of events, it is likely that this developer will never appear in such a list again.

Again, my opinion of the game is moot. The general opinion, and public perception is the tipping point here, and that is what I am attempting to convey.

The developer now has a critical flop on their permanent record.

It doesn't matter what I think of the game, and I have no opinion of its quality.

Again, how has the game "flopped" already? There are no sales figures for it yet, OBVIOUSLY, because it isn't out yet. Come back in 6 months and tell me if it flopped. This way, if it actually does flop, I'll happily apologize to you, accept defeat, and eat crow. Until then, there is currently no "flop".



                                                                                                                                            

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CGI-Quality said:
@ Zen

And a "flop" would indicate it didn't sell up to or exceed expectations. The damn game isn't out yet, how the heck can it already be a flop?

Well, by your definition maybe.

By mine, a game flops, if most people think(not that they form opinions based off of reviews, more often than personal experience) it sucks. It doesn't matter if said game sells a million copies. If most people think it's crap, then it's a flop, by my definition.

Might be from my gamespot days, but we would take bets on the gamespot review score, and dub the game either a hit or a flop based upon that review score.

I still use that standard to judge entertainment.

For instance:

Xmen Wolverine: Origins was a highly grossing film, with high expectations. However, it was totally panned by critics, and thus, in my mind, was a flop.

That is my reasoning.

 



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

Sorry Zen... but youre full of shit.



Zen, can you show me where post people "think it sucks" so far we have 7 reviews for it being a good game and 3 so-so reviews... where are these "most people"



ZenfoldorVGI said:
CGI-Quality said:
@ Zen

And a "flop" would indicate it didn't sell up to or exceed expectations. The damn game isn't out yet, how the heck can it already be a flop?

Well, by your definition maybe.

By mine, a game flops, if everybody thinks it sucks. It doesn't matter if said game sells a million copies. If most people think it's crap, then it's a flop, by my definition.

Might be from my gamespot days, but we would take bets on the gamespot review score, and dub the game either a hit or a flop based upon that review score.

I still use that standard to judge entertainment.

For instance:

Xmen Wolverine: Origins was a highly grossing film, with high expectations. However, it was totally panned by critics, and thus, in my mind, was a flop.

That is my reasoning.

 

Your first sentence has problems, "everybody" doesn't think the game sucks, especially since, ONCE AGAIN, the damn game isn't out yet.

I swear sometimes there's like no reasoning with you, you're just bent on HAVING to be right.



                                                                                                                                            

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JEDE3 said:
Sorry Zen... but youre full of shit.

Compelling argument sir. I have been bested by a master debater, and at this point in my career, it's unfortunate that I had to meet such a skilled linguist.



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

JEDE3 said:
Zen, can you show me where post people "think it sucks" so far we have 7 reviews for the game and 3 so-so reviews... where are these "most people"

A couple of sites have gave it a 9 and 96%. Let me guess, they think it sucks too...?



                                                                                                                                            

CGI-Quality said:
 

Your first sentence has problems, "everybody" doesn't think the game sucks, especially since, ONCE AGAIN, the damn game isn't out yet.

I swear sometimes there's like no reasoning with you, you're just bent on HAVING to be right.

Forgive me, I've edited that line. I realize that not every single person will think this game sucks just because of those reviews.

I've changed that to "most people."

By "most people," I mean the average gamer who reads videogame reviews, and judges games based upon them. Certainly that must be a large majority of the people on this forum, and of that entire market segment.

Actully, "most people" in the world, probably don't even know the game exists.

Excuse me for my backwoods colloquilisms.

What pharse would you sugest?



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

CGI-Quality said:
JEDE3 said:
Zen, can you show me where post people "think it sucks" so far we have 7 reviews for the game and 3 so-so reviews... where are these "most people"

A couple of sites have gave it a 9 and 96%. Let me guess, they think it sucks too...?

I wouldn't know what they think. I'm the wrong person to ask. I'm good CGI, but not psychic.



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

ZenfoldorVGI said:
CGI-Quality said:
 

Your first sentence has problems, "everybody" doesn't think the game sucks, especially since, ONCE AGAIN, the damn game isn't out yet.

I swear sometimes there's like no reasoning with you, you're just bent on HAVING to be right.

Forgive me, I've edited that line. I realize that not every single person will think this game sucks just because of those reviews.

I've changed that to "most people."

By "most people," I mean the average gamer who reads videogame reviews, and judges games based upon them. Certain that must be a large majority of the people on this forum, and of that entire market segment.

Actully, "most people" in the world, probably don't even know the game exists.

Excuse me for my backwoods colloquilisms.

What pharse would you sugest?

Zen, you're making generalizations based on YOUR OWN one-track analysis.

Then you admit that "most people" in the world don't know the game exists...interesting....

So then...

A. How do "most people" think it sucks?

B. How does YOU calling it a failure turn it into it being a flop

C. How come Polyphony Digital is now some God forsaken dev because YOU think the game is a failure, BEFORE you even put your hands on it...

There are LOTS of holes in your analysis here Zen. I just want you to know that...