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whats wrong with what i said?

maybe the stuff about choosing where to move armies and motionplus would be too far but the rest of it sounds good to me. im not hating on fire emblem, i love the franchise. but with radiant dawn it was very obvious that this was just a gamecube game but on wii. i want them to move the franchise farward and make use of the wii's extra functions like IR and online. being able to create your own weapons with the weapon maker from FE and then trade them with people online sounds awesome. tho of course the weapon maker would have to be a lot deeper. why wouldnt you want these options?



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Here's what was wrong with what you said, Woopah.

1. IR functionality for controls. a buttong for selecting character, b button for selecting task.

Why? There's really no need for this. The old controls worked perfectly, and I'd rather not have to point my remote at the screen all the time.

 

2. Build on the foundation of radiant dawn with a really deep weapon/armour creation system with a market place where weapons can be bought and sold online

I just don't see the point. Making and selling armour? It has nothing to do with Fire Emblem - heck, there isn't even armour in the game, as it is now. To add it in, they would have to revoke the entire system of attack/defence

 

3. map creator, co op and maybe even character creation.

Map creator is okay, but Co-op would just take too long for it to really work. Character creation is silly, quite simply.

 

4. if they wanted to go even further they could have you choose where your armies move, and use motion+ guestures in battle to decide on damage (a la paper mario TTYD)

I think you see how retarded that is yourself.



Khuutra said:
I think Radiant Dawn and Path of Radiance, taken together, are the best Fire Emblem game.

Seconded.



Pineapple said:

Actually, the Laguz are rather great. I just BEXP'd the herons to level 30, so they can fill up the Laguz' transformations gauges. Thus, none of them are useless,, as each Heron can keep a good 3-4 Laguz active at a time.

Additionally, they're completely free to use. You can essentially use an entire (8) Olivigrass a round, and still have them cheaper than using Beorc.

And they start at ridiculously high levels, compared to the Beorc, too.

(I don't remember the herons boosting laguz transformation gauges but I'll take your word for it.)

I think you meant to say "usable" not "great" in this post.

Great is like Haar or Ike where you can throw them into battle without babying, without BEXP use, without needing support of any kind and watch them devastate the enemy units. 

Having to spend a ferocious amount of BEXP on the herons and require their constant use on laguz just to make the laguz useful in battle doesn't make them great especially when you consider where you could be spending that BEXP and who you could be double attack/moving with the herons.  Usable?  Maybe.  Great?  No.

Also, you missed this part of woopah's post:

New setting, new world, new story, new characters, new units, new weapon types. first of a new fire emblem trilogy.

It's amazing to ask this considering just about every Fire Emblem does a majority of these already.



Why do people want Fire Emblem to change world? I'd like another one in Tellius, or across the desert of death.

You could argue that killing the goddess sort of kills the storyline, though.

However, the lot about branded at the end of Radiant Dawn gives me hope. Oh well, a man can dream.



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RolStoppable said:
SmokedHostage said:
RolStoppable said:

Radiant Dawn is my favorite Fire Emblem because there are so many characters to use and so much EXP to collect. Almost got 1,600 level ups on a single playthrough.

EDIT: I also like that most characters usually max out several of their stats, unlike in prevoius FEs when it used to be one or two.

This from the man that complains that JRPG's have too many playable characters and that 3 characters in the same party at the same time is more useful.

In reference to your favorite PS2 JRPG thread.

JRPGs with more characters than the size of the actual party can hold, are usually filled with useless characters you'll never use unless you must for storyline purposes. That's why I prefer JRPGs with less characters.

Radiant Dawn has the biggest cast of any FE, but surprisingly it has also the lowest number of useless characters. Well okay, most of the Laguz aren't good, but since I am not a fan of those characters, it never bothered me that they are rather useless. Also, JRPGs and SRPGs are different, so what I like about one genre isn't necessarily the case for the other genre.

Non-Royal laguz were kind of useless in that game, but the number of royals against non-royals was basically even, and you had a lot of access to them. (also the wolf, Nailah's associate, who's name eludes me atm, he acted like a royal even if he wasn't).



Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.

nintendo should release both the GC and Wii FE games in a bundle so i could get into the series, shame on them for not encouraging the customer to try their games.



gansito said:
nintendo should release both the GC and Wii FE games in a bundle so i could get into the series, shame on them for not encouraging the customer to try their games.

I don't really understand what you're talking about.

You do realize you can play Radiant Dawn with no knowledge of Path of Radiance and enjoy it quite a lot right?



Words Of Wisdom said:
gansito said:
nintendo should release both the GC and Wii FE games in a bundle so i could get into the series, shame on them for not encouraging the customer to try their games.

I don't really understand what you're talking about.

You do realize you can play Radiant Dawn with no knowledge of Path of Radiance and enjoy it quite a lot right?

but i've read that it's a sequel to that game, with the same characters, why wouldn't i want to try them both.



Mr Khan said:
RolStoppable said:
SmokedHostage said:
RolStoppable said:

Radiant Dawn is my favorite Fire Emblem because there are so many characters to use and so much EXP to collect. Almost got 1,600 level ups on a single playthrough.

EDIT: I also like that most characters usually max out several of their stats, unlike in prevoius FEs when it used to be one or two.

This from the man that complains that JRPG's have too many playable characters and that 3 characters in the same party at the same time is more useful.

In reference to your favorite PS2 JRPG thread.

JRPGs with more characters than the size of the actual party can hold, are usually filled with useless characters you'll never use unless you must for storyline purposes. That's why I prefer JRPGs with less characters.

Radiant Dawn has the biggest cast of any FE, but surprisingly it has also the lowest number of useless characters. Well okay, most of the Laguz aren't good, but since I am not a fan of those characters, it never bothered me that they are rather useless. Also, JRPGs and SRPGs are different, so what I like about one genre isn't necessarily the case for the other genre.

Non-Royal laguz were kind of useless in that game, but the number of royals against non-royals was basically even, and you had a lot of access to them. (also the wolf, Nailah's associate, who's name eludes me atm, he acted like a royal even if he wasn't).

No, they weren't useless. They come in hilariously overleveled, so if you don't BEXP the weak Beorc, you can BEXP the herons. A level 30 heron fills the gauge, and keeps 2-3 Laguz active in a battle. Considering you'll hardly ever access more than that, that's enough.

If you don't feel like that, you can use an entire 8pack of Olivigrass a map, and still use less money than a Beorc. They're not useless at all, except that a few are in the endgame.

And Volug had a skill that made his stats multiply by 1.5, rather than 2, but always enable him to halfshift. He didn't act as a Royal.

 

gansito said:
Words Of Wisdom said:
gansito said:
nintendo should release both the GC and Wii FE games in a bundle so i could get into the series, shame on them for not encouraging the customer to try their games.

I don't really understand what you're talking about.

You do realize you can play Radiant Dawn with no knowledge of Path of Radiance and enjoy it quite a lot right?

but i've read that it's a sequel to that game, with the same characters, why wouldn't i want to try them both.

 The Wii can read Gamecube discs. Simply buy Path of Radiance. I played FE10 first, and found it to be one of my top 10 games ever, yet knowing nothing about Fire Emblem.