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@ Dodece


Trying telling my customers who have been trying to get a wii for months its not supply constrained, they'll probably laugh and ask you to try to find one.



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I think next week's hardware sales for the Wii in Japan are going to be back at insane levels. Why? Because of their fall conference.

The announcement of Monster Hunter coming to Wii exclusively coupled with the details on WiiWare (Japanese LOVE downloading games) will drive up sales again. Downloadable Final Fantasy and Pokemon = WIN.



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PS3: 24 million

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Summaro400ex said:
@ Dodece


Trying telling my customers who have been trying to get a wii for months its not supply constrained, they'll probably laugh and ask you to try to find one.

 Yeah, to this day, a friend of mine still cannot find a Wii anywhere in the city.  Supply constrained in America does not mean that the Wii is constantly sold out everywhere all the time.  But there are certainly areas in the US that have supply problems.



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RussWakelin said:

Over the past few weeks, not only has the 360 HW sales exceeded the Wii's, but the gap has been steadily growing:

Week Before Halo: 360 sells 11k more units than Wii
Week of Halo: 360 sells 24k more units than Wii
Last Week: 360 sells 30k more units than Wii

And we haven't even gotten into the holiday season madness yet.

Nintendo has hinted that they may have supply problems this holiday, which could hurt their sales numbers. But even with out that, can the 360 continue these kinds of numbers through the holiday?

I think perhaps it can. While the "Halo Effect" may wear off, Halo really is just the beginning of some soon to come AAA titles that won't be on the Wii:

The Orange Box (just out, we'll see how the numbers do next week)
Mass Effect
Assasin's Creed
Rock Band
Virtua Fighter 5
Call of Duty 4
Army of Two
GHIII

The only title the Wii has coming out that looks to be anywhere near the potential of the above is Super Mario Galaxy.

Is it too soon to think that the 360 can retake the lead before 2008?


 The game comparison is a complete joke.  For one thing, as has been pointed out, Guitar Hero III is also hitting the Wii.  But there are also many great games other than Galaxy coming out, even without Brawl. 

A quick look at ign.com's release list shows:
Guilty Gear
Zack & Wiki
NiGHTS
Battalion Wars
Umbrella Chronicles
Soulcalibur Legends
Trauma Center

Even though you might not find all these games appealing -- they're not all must-buys for me either -- they will all probably do as well as the games you name. 

Anyway, the Halo boost will fade soon and then we'll be laughing at this thread.  



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I wouldn't have said this even a couple days ago, but 360 will retake the lead (temporarily) and outsell every other console between now and Feb. 28.

 



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Dodece said:
@koffieboon

No systems are supply constrained within America. You can readily find any system you so desire. That is not a issue anymore. Technically it hasn't been a issue for months. Enough fellow posters can back me up on that. You can go get a Wii now any time you so desire.

I work at Costco (5th largest retailer in America?) and we have only had the Wii stocked a dozen different times (usually for a few days at a time). I guess we could have sold 5-10 times that much. Even now, we only had the Wii in stock once last month and once this month. For the majority of time the Xbox 360 and PS3 have been around, we have had them. Costco is just one of the many stores that will not be able to have a steady supply of Wiis until next year at the earliest. Same thing for many online stores like Amazon. I have checked dozens of times and never seen the Wii for sale on Amazon (I know they sell it, they are just almost always sold out).

Also, about this list

>The Orange Box (just out, we'll see how the numbers do next week)
Mass Effect
Assasin's Creed
Rock Band
Virtua Fighter 5
Call of Duty 4
Army of Two
GHIII

Is that for PC, PS3 or 360? Because I cannot tell :)

The Wii has a better version of GHIII and don't expect much for VF5. That game has never been popular in America or even good, except in the arcade. Hell, Link’s Crossbow Training, Manhunt 2, and Mario & Sonic at the Olympics may all kill it in sales. I don't think the Japanese sales are gonna be good for half of the games listed, either.

To answer the question, the 360 will never reach Wii levels.

 



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the wii will pick back up very soon cause of xmas in the states and europe and that will be all she wrote my friends. and wait till the japanese gamers out there get their hands on SMG can we say massive pwnage? yeah halo3 did help sales of the 360 but it is only very very short term. plus people have to replace their broken 360's to play halo3 so alot of these sales are peoplee replacing their units cause of the hardware failures.



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It's actually possibly since Nintendo's biggest game (sorry Mario galaxy fans) just got moved to next year and they might not be able to make enough units. But They still have Mario Galaxy which is pretty much the biggest game of this year. Plus a low price so not likely.



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