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Zuhyc said:
noname2200 said:
trestres said:
That's a big Wii drop. Also wow at PS2 selling on par with PS3.

I was actually expecting a more dramatic drop for the Wii to be honest, but the PS3's drop caught me off guard: it's on par with the 360?!

It dropped like 2000 units, around 20-25%. That's a huge drop.

True, and I'm curious as to why. Aiemond may be right that the Slim rumors are having that effect: I was expecting 8k at the lowest, which is about where the system has settled recently.



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noname2200 said:
Zuhyc said:
noname2200 said:
trestres said:
That's a big Wii drop. Also wow at PS2 selling on par with PS3.

I was actually expecting a more dramatic drop for the Wii to be honest, but the PS3's drop caught me off guard: it's on par with the 360?!

It dropped like 2000 units, around 20-25%. That's a huge drop.

True, and I'm curious as to why. Aiemond may be right that the Slim rumors are having that effect: I was expecting 8k at the lowest, which is about where the system has settled recently.

it would drop anyway, maybe even sub 8k (look at last year, without games the ps3 kept dropping so far the 360 outsold it for some weeks), but not this fast. I'm pretty sure it's stock clearing/slim rumors.



So... what if the Ps3slim was just that, a simple rumor... what would happen then? O.o



Maynard_Tool said:
So... what if the Ps3slim was just that, a simple rumor... what would happen then? O.o

A mass harakiri by the PS3 fanboys.



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dolemit3 said:
Maynard_Tool said:
So... what if the Ps3slim was just that, a simple rumor... what would happen then? O.o

A mass harakiri by the PS3 fanboys.

Meltdowns, backpedling, defense.....basically what we have been seeing the whole gen. Slim is prolly true, but if it is not, oh god it will be funny.



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dolemit3 said:
Maynard_Tool said:
So... what if the Ps3slim was just that, a simple rumor... what would happen then? O.o

A mass harakiri by the PS3 fanboys.

I'm thinking they would commit public sudoku.



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dolemit3 said:
Maynard_Tool said:
So... what if the Ps3slim was just that, a simple rumor... what would happen then? O.o

A mass harakiri by the PS3 fanboys.

I thought FF13 already caused that.



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don't know if it was posted, but Media Create has some different numbers:

01. SD Gundam G Generation Wars (PS2) - 175,000 / NEW
02. Monster Hunter 3 (Wii) - 137,000 / 657,000
03. Dragon Quest IX (DS) - 136,000 / 3,517,000
04. Tales of VS. (PSP) - 133,000 / NEW
05. Tomodachi Collection (DS) - 92,000 / 602,000
06. Wii Sports Resort (Wii) - 73,000 / 902,000
07. Kamen Rider: Climax Heroes (PS2) - 52,000 / NEW
08. SD Gundam G Generation Wars (Wii) - 35 / NEW
09. Irodzuki Tingle no Koi no Balloon Trip (DS) - 33,000 / NEW
10. J-League Winning Eleven 2009 Club Championship (PS2) - 33,000 / NEW

http://kotaku.com/5336849/japan-still-lovin-the-ps2-still-buyin-gundam

 

Op for comparison:

01. [PS2] SD Gundam Generation Wars (Bandai Namco) - 196,000
02. [PSP] Tales of Versus (Bandai Namco) - 153,000
03. [WII] Monster Hunter 3 (tri~) (Capcom) - 138,000
04. [NDS] Dragon Quest IX (Square Enix)
05. [NDS] Tomodachi Collection (Nintendo)
06. [WII] Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo)
07. [PS2] Kamen Rider (Bandai Namco) - 53,000
08. [360] Magna Carta 2 (Bandai Namco) - 38,000
09. [PS2] Winning Eleven: Club Championship (Konami) - 35,000
10. [NDS] Tingle (Nintendo) - 33,000



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outlawauron said:
dolemit3 said:
Maynard_Tool said:
So... what if the Ps3slim was just that, a simple rumor... what would happen then? O.o

A mass harakiri by the PS3 fanboys.

I'm thinking they would commit public sudoku.

I'm getting this image of thousands of people flooding the public square and pulling out their newspaper...



Alright I collected the data that was released last week about Monster Hunter 3's sales data. A lot of people are calling the game a flop even though is already in the top 10 best selling titles of 09 for Japan, but that doesn't matter much. I just want to show off what I came up with.

 

The first thing I noticed was that I have 3 unknowns.

x = stand alone

y= CC bundle

z= Wii bundle

Then I came up with my first equation

x+y+z= 1 million

This is from the data released prior to Famitsu's numbers that Capcom shipped 1 million copies

Then I came up with my second equation

.4x+.7y+.8z=.545 * 1 million

This is from the article that was released saying that the standalone only sold 40% of its shipment while CC bundle did 70% and the wii bundle did 80%. Then finally there was the statement that the game had 54.5% sale through.

x+y+z= 1 million

.4x+.7y+.8z=545000

are my two equations. Unfortunately I can't solve that because I have 3 unknowns but only 2 equations. So I decided to estimate. I figure since this is an estimation/prediction site that it would be alright. I decided to combine the bundles together. Which would get me down to two equation and two unknowns.

 

x+y=1 million

.4x+.75y=545000

 

Using algebra I simply solved.

 

I got 585715 standalone copies and 414285 bundle copies. In the first week 310,715 bundles were sold whereas only 234,286 standalones were sold (excuse my rounding errors). That is a 76,429 copy difference or a 25% difference between the two.  It is clear to see that Capcom overestimated the value of the stand alone immensly.

 

So we also see that There are 351,429 standalone copies leftover. Wow that is a huge overstock. Retailers made a huge misread. This easily explains why prices are being slashed. On the other hand  there are only 103,570 bundles leftover after the first week. That is certainly a more maneagable number.

 

It would seem to me that the majority of sales this week came from the stand alone considering the number of leftover and this weeks sales. It is hard for me to believe that all of the bundles are sold up. Then on the other hand retailers wouldn't be taking such drastic action if the standalone sold 100,000 in its second week when it did a front loaded 200,000 its first week.

 

Hopefully with the holiday and pricecut, retailers will be able to move the remaining copies of the 1 million and get a new shipment in. One that is more realistic and more favored towards bundles instead of standalone.



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