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Forums - Sales Discussion - about time to declare Wii the winner?

despite pundits who say it's too early to say so, it is perhaps time to say such things. saying "wait until 2008 x'mas and we'll see" is lame and terminates discussions. PS2 won hands down because of 3rd party support, and given that games take 1-2 years to develop, the annoucements of games coming to the wii means the wii in 2008 would be even more attractive than the wii in 2007. the last little while i've read about rumors/news about katamari wii, nights wii, even GTA wii. by 2008 wii production should also be significantly greater. granted, none of those are likely to be exclusives, but the mere presence of those games plus the fact that the wii is the least expensive console makes the wii the console of choice for most consumers. to be strict, the wii and PS3/360 are so different that the wii cannot be declared the "winner". but it would also be silly to suggest that they're not competing against each other. even if one cannot declare wii the "winner" since 360 is doing very well, it seems safe to declare PS3 the loser. the only question is: can sony's internal studios deliver one blockbuster after another? i think not--their games will be extremely well-polished and extreme eye-candies, but lower on gameplay value. in fact i think many will be quite similar and be competing against each other. PS3 helped jump-start blu-ray, but ironically, i don't think blu-ray can help the PS3 as much, because of the entrance of mass market low-cost blu-ray players if blu-ray is successful. i have been a fan of steve jobs' vision, and i take iTV trouncing both the PS3 and 360 in terms of being the home hub. hi def disks might be merely transition to online media delivery, and if anyone can do it, it's apple, who plays no part in the format war. if so, that makes the wii stand out even more. before long, we might be talking about wiiTV. ps. basically all because the wii is cheaper than the 360 and the ps3.



the Wii is an epidemic.

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Too early. Wait until it reaches 5 million in 2 regions or passes 360...at least.



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I agree with TheSource, despite Nintendo's early sucess it is still far too early to declare anybody the winner. Just the simple fact that they have not eclipsed the 360 means they cannot claim the title right now. I agree things look extremely bright for the Wii and it does look bad for Sony right now but things can change quickly. Don't think Sony will just roll over and stop trying just because PS3 sales have been dissapointing up to now, many things can change in the next few years.

Lingyis said: can sony's internal studios deliver one blockbuster after another? i think not--their games will be extremely well-polished and extreme eye-candies, but lower on gameplay value
How can you say PS3 games will be "lower on gameplay value" just because the PS3 is more powerful graphically. The Xbox and GC were both more powerful graphics wise compared to the PS2 and yet I would not say the gameplay suffered on those systems. It is too early to declare anybody the winner or the loser.



GTA for the Wii? People need to lay off the kool-aid.



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No, it's not time to declare a winner.



No, not quite yet. Give it another 18 months before even thinking about it.



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zukaus said: Lingyis said: can sony's internal studios deliver one blockbuster after another? i think not--their games will be extremely well-polished and extreme eye-candies, but lower on gameplay value How can you say PS3 games will be "lower on gameplay value" just because the PS3 is more powerful graphically. The Xbox and GC were both more powerful graphics wise compared to the PS2 and yet I would not say the gameplay suffered on those systems. It is too early to declare anybody the winner or the loser.
On gameplay: graphics and gameplay should in principle have no correlation. But under the assumption that budgets are limited if one gets more attention the other suffers. Sony is ultimately not a company built around gaming, so I'm guessing gameplay is something that doesn't receive as much resourses.



the Wii is an epidemic.

perhaps "declaring a winner" is the wrong way to put it; let me rephrase. do we have enough information to say that the wii is going to dominate the game console industry for the next 4 years? what i'm interested is this: what are the important PREDICTORs in this case? how many of the predictors have we observed that are strong signals that the wii is likely to outsell its competitors? for instance, innovative gameplay is a predictor for the early success of the wii. this is miyamoto's vision. now that all systems have been selling for over 4 months, what have we observed in this period that might influence sales more than any other factor? again, for instance, price turns out to be a much bigger factor than most experts predicted, thus contributing to PS3's early stumble. is there something that is not obvious, or something people do not consider as predictors, that is a strong predictor? to me, "strong game support" is a stronger predictor than "great graphics", at least in this gen. in this business, "good pricing" is a stronger predictor than "high def support". so my question is: Do we have enough knowledge to say with a good decree of confidence (defined in a way that makes sense) that the Wii is going to come out ahead by X'mas 2010?



the Wii is an epidemic.

I think the winner will ultimatly be the PS3 It has the potenital to be on the market for 10 years. so the wii will have made the wii 2 and the PS3 will still be out. They will be able to make them for a lower price than the wii. And still be a more powerful system. Probably. But then again this is just a guess