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UPDATE: GT5 passes 10 million - Guess the lifetime sales for Uncharted 2, God Of War III and Gran Tursimo 5

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yo_john117 said:

It doesn't work that way because GT5 and GOW3 are still selling great right now....and you know Uncharted 2 still has some life left in it.

But they still are overestimated right now.

It's crow time until proven otherwise. You can't have it both ways. Maybe in 5 years the GT5/gow faithfuls can serve crow, but it looks like they'll be coughing feathers until then, because, right now they've failed to live up to the majority of this topics expectations.



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mendozahotness said:
yo_john117 said:

It doesn't work that way because GT5 and GOW3 are still selling great right now....and you know Uncharted 2 still has some life left in it.

But they still are overestimated right now.

It's crow time until proven otherwise. You can't have it both ways. Maybe in 5 years the GT5/gow faithfuls can serve crow, but it looks like they'll be coughing feathers until then, because, right now they've failed to live up to the majority of this topics expectations.

so much fail

you can't 'over/under'-estimate anything 'now' UNLESS those who made the predictions said they will do xx numbers by this date. your whole attempt is fail, it lacks any common sense



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mendozahotness said:
yo_john117 said:

It doesn't work that way because GT5 and GOW3 are still selling great right now....and you know Uncharted 2 still has some life left in it.

But they still are overestimated right now.

It's crow time until proven otherwise. You can't have it both ways. Maybe in 5 years the GT5/gow faithfuls can serve crow, but it looks like they'll be coughing feathers until then, because, right now they've failed to live up to the majority of this topics expectations.

How so when the predictions speak for lifetime totals?



                                                                                                                                            

mendozahotness said:
yo_john117 said:

It doesn't work that way because GT5 and GOW3 are still selling great right now....and you know Uncharted 2 still has some life left in it.

But they still are overestimated right now.

It's crow time until proven otherwise. You can't have it both ways. Maybe in 5 years the GT5/gow faithfuls can serve crow, but it looks like they'll be coughing feathers until then, because, right now they've failed to live up to the majority of this topics expectations.



You do realize what LIFETIME predictions are? They are predictions for WHEN THE GAMES STOP SELLING. They are not predictions for how much the game will sell today. No when predicted the sales to July 31st 2011. They predicted the sales for when those games are done selling. So no, people didn't overstimated as much as you make it out. If you can find me one prediction that says 'sales until July 31st 2011' then you'll have a point.

That's about as stupid as someone predicting 10m sales for Halo Reach LT and then having someone say 'you overestimated because it hasn't reached 10m yet. That's stupid because the prediction was for LT.

CGI-Quality said:

How so when the predictions speak for lifetime totals?


If you'd like to define lifetime?

Is it as long as the game is sold? As long as the copy exists? When did it's "life" start? How long after a games sales slows to a grinding halt is it's life over. Does a remake count?

Regardless, at this stage in the games lifetime, you should be eating crow. You can stop if it hits 10 million.



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Jay520 said:
They predicted the sales for when those games are done selling. So no, people didn't overstimated as much as you make it out.If you can find me one prediction that says 'sales until July 31st 2011' then you'll have a point.

Likewise you have no evidence to say these games will actually sell that much. Keep waiting is not an option. Just crow, or no crow. It's mostly crow right now.

Jay520 said:

That's about as stupid as someone predicting 10m sales for Halo Reach LT and then having someone say 'you overestimated because it hasn't reached 10m yet. That's stupid because the prediction was for LT.

It hasn't sold 10m. So crow. If it does, no crow. Your paradigm is not very good. Substituting the game doesn't affect the prediction being incorrect.



mendozahotness said:
CGI-Quality said:

How so when the predictions speak for lifetime totals?


If you'd like to define lifetime?

Is it as long as the game is sold? As long as the copy exists? When did it's "life" start? How long after a games sales slows to a grinding halt is it's life over. Does a remake count?

Regardless, at this stage in the games lifetime, you should be eating crow. You can stop if it hits 10 million.

This is just getting pedantic now. It's pretty self-explanatory;  lifetime indicates when a game/title/book (whatever) stops selling. None of the games in question have reached that point, rendering your argument pointless.

Also, point out where I said GT5 would do 10 million in just 8 months. Otherwise, that hole you're digging is just going to continue to deepen.



                                                                                                                                            

CGI-Quality said:

This is just getting pedantic now. Anyone following sales knows lifetime indicates when the game stops selling (or comes to a crawl). None of the games in question have reached that point, making your entire argument pointless.

All those games have come to a crawl. Especially with the average estimates and what they have left to go. Do you believe in miracles?

CGI-Quality said:

 

Also, point out where I said GT5 would do 10 million in just 8 months and you'd have an argument worth following.

If you predicted GT5 would do 10 million and it hasn't (which it hasn't), that makes your prediction incorrect. If your prediction is incorrect, crow is what's for dinner.

It's kinda funny that this topic gets bumped for the slightest underestimate, but you point out that the overestimates are even further off and wham, defense.



mendozahotness said:
Jay520 said:
They predicted the sales for when those games are done selling. So no, people didn't overstimated as much as you make it out.If you can find me one prediction that says 'sales until July 31st 2011' then you'll have a point.

Likewise you have no evidence to say these games will actually sell that much. Keep waiting is not an option. Just crow, or no crow. It's mostly crow right now.

Jay520 said:

That's about as stupid as someone predicting 10m sales for Halo Reach LT and then having someone say 'you overestimated because it hasn't reached 10m yet. That's stupid because the prediction was for LT.

It hasn't sold 10m. So crow. If it does, no crow. Your paradigm is not very good. Substituting the game doesn't affect the prediction being incorrect.



Uhh yes I do, I have evidence that shows if a game is still selling at a steady pace, then it is possible to tell how much it will sell in the next 4 - 5 years. And all the games list are still selling at a steady pace which logically means they will eventually reach most of the predictions in the thread. Anyone with a basic understanding of sales trends knows that.

As for Reach. It's not a matter of IF it does, because it WILL do 10m. It's guaranteed. We know that by looking at the current sales of the game. We can clearly see what the game will and won't reach. Reach WILL cross 10m in it's Lifetime. The 10m LT prediction IS right. And if you don't understand that, then there's no reason debating with you.

Again those predictions are for when the games stop selling. That means once the games start sellingl

mendozahotness said:
CGI-Quality said:

This is just getting pedantic now. Anyone following sales knows lifetime indicates when the game stops selling (or comes to a crawl). None of the games in question have reached that point, making your entire argument pointless.

All those games have come to a crawl. Especially with the average estimates and what they have left to go. Do you believe in miracles?

CGI-Quality said:

 

Also, point out where I said GT5 would do 10 million in just 8 months and you'd have an argument worth following.

If you predicted GT5 would do 10 million and it hasn't (which it hasn't), that makes your prediction incorrect. If your prediction is incorrect, crow is what's for dinner.

It's kinda funny that this topic gets bumped for the slightest underestimate, but you point out that the overestimates are even further off and wham, defense.

You've done nothing but repeat the same ol' song over and over and it makes no sense each time. My predicition for GT5 is that it will reach 10 million in it's lifetime, not that it would do it by July 2011. I have no further need to say that, because as long as the game is still FAR from it's final sale, I haven't over-predicted anything.

I see the argument has shifted from all three games to just GT5, telling me one side is weakening. Bottom line, none of the games in this topic have reached their lifetime totals.