Wow, didnt see this one coming from FishyJoe.

And for those interested in the truth and not hatred for all things sony.......there is no proof that it is BD+ causing these issues and it is an isolated issue with 3 players.....and for those who care, the CE's have admitted they need firmware, thus any intelligent person should understand that if only select hardware experiences problems it is not a BD+ issue....and it has a better chance to be a java issue than BD+ according to insiders and those who know what theyre talking about.

So, no one knows if it is due to BD+ or not, and the manufacturers have announed firmware is on the way to correct it.....it is not a BD+ issue at this point. 

Torrents FTW!

All this DRM crap gets me on my nerves. You buy a expensive player, an expensive movie, an expensive TV and an expensive 7.1 and STILL they don't trust you? Go to hell.

I have squat to worry about...I update my PS3 every time it gives me the option. Wi-Fi rules. Though I don't have an HDTV yet, so I haven't bothered with blu ray movies just yet. But anyone who thinks I'm settling for normal DVD after I get an HDTV when I already have a PS3 is delusional. And I don't see it being THAT far into the future. The HDTV I mean.

It's funny how Fox blamed the player manufacturers for not having the firmware to play their discs. I think all this might have stemmed from the rumored "delay" of these Fox movies, but then Fox denied it. And now, look what happens. Not enough QA and get playback issues? Or settle for delays, AGAIN?

They should pick their poisons carefully. :)

Though it was a long time ago, similar problems did occur with first-generation DVD players when more advanced dual-layer discs and the like started being released (The Matrix in particular was problematic). This is different of course, stemming from DRM issues rather than simple hardware issues. Personally, I HAVE actually installed firmware updates in my DVD player, but would never expect the majority of the public to do so. That said, I do appreciate that the HD-DVD spec requires the inclusion of an ethernet port in order to help combat these very scenarios. I think it is valuable to have the potential to increase the performance of a device through updates, which is very common in devices like CD/DVD burners.

I think, this is unconstitutional, cause, the rights of customers, grant, the free uses of a legit property of you buy
Then, the fact of altered specifications of a product you previous buy, with no improved functions to the product is a crime
More if you know, that the same corp, is selling, virgin midia and recorders to direct copy ,,,,,,,,,,What ????, If they really, do not acept the right of private copy, to the legit own software that you buy
Te only way, to protect copy rights, is no selling, or manufacturing, storage midia, or recorders

yeap this is truly a backbreaking fixable and already fixed issue......thanks for playing sensationalists, but it looks like it will take a little more than some FUD blogs and FishyJoe to destroy BD

http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=19307

Firmware updates for these things are par for the course at this stage, you can tell most of the people involved in this are just jumping on hype trains and fail to do some research on DVD and heck, even HD DVD which has needed firmware fixes to aid playback.

Ohh great, a firmware update will fix everything, I'm so glad!

Now tell your grandmother/aunt/gardener how to do a firmware update.

Heh, it will be like I told my father 4 years ago:

"Either go buy a Mac right now or I will NEVER take another tech phone call from you."

I worked as IT for a 25 computer business at the time and the last thing I wanted was to get more phone calls at night trying to decipher the stupidity that is Windows operated by a tech n00b.

Luckily, he did go buy a Mac so I don't have to deal with his crap anymore.