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CGI-Quality said:
Mirson said:
CGI-Quality said:
Carl2291 said:
SamuelRSmith said:

Something good.

Just because you dont think its good, doesnt mean it isnt.

You didn't HAVE to download it and you dont HAVE to go on it, so i dont see the problem.

Its an optional, free service what a lot of people like to use.

For some reason, many people complain about a service that isn't forced upon them. I don't understand it either, but to each his own, right?

So we can't give our opinions on Home because it isn't forced upon us?

If you have a problem with the service, simple, DON'T USE IT...But why bitch about it in the interim?

I wonder though, if it wasn't a Sony service, would you have quoted me? Doubt it...

I think a lot of the hate comes from the hype. Home was hyped for more than a year; it kept getting delayed, but it showed a lot of potential. When it was finally released, it was a boring, disappointing mess. I don't know how Sony made something so simple, awfully boring. It just didn't live up to the hype for many and wasn't worth the wait. There are still a bunch of problems with Home like having to redownload all the areas every month and waiting in line to play games. I'm going to be the better man and not comment on your second line.



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SamuelRSmith said:
joeorc said:
SamuelRSmith said:
I can't agree to disagree on this, because I seriously feel that this was a massive waste of money on Sony's behalf.

And although it could be making a profit, now (nobody knows, - it was in development for a large amount of time, and requires quite an extensive architecture - also, Sony's been quite quiet on numbers since that $1,000,000 in a week - could have died quickly), there's no denying that if that money had been invested elsewhere, it could have been returning more of a profit for Sony.

there's no denying that if that money had been invested elsewhere, it could have been returning more of a profit for Sony.

In you OPINION...!

you may not agree to disagree on this , but I will agree to dissagree with you on this. I understand you feel very strong in your Opinion on HOME and nothing wrong with at. but on the same token you are going to find people that do not share your Opinion on Home .

Just as you would find people that do share your Opinion on Home and they would agree with you and there are people I am sure in the forum that indeed agree with you on your point's. I on the other hand do not.

so I am sorry you feel that way about Home and since you are not required to USE Home I would not use Home If I was you because it seem's to be getting you a little hot under the collar stress is not good for anyone esp. gamer's.

Heh, I'm not getting stressed, debating is what I do best. Hence why 90% of my posts are made in political threads, and I rarely venture into gaming threads, anymore.

But debating is essentially what forums are about - all this "agree to disagree" works well in real life, but on a forum, it quickly turns things into some kind of arse-patting group, and a niggling curiosity for homo-erotism aside, that's not really where I want to spend my free time.

so I gather this is more about creating a debate on the viability of Home vs' what Sony should have done instead of putting resources toward home?

I think if you had that it was a debate in the topic you would not have had so many passive post's



I AM BOLO

100% lover "nothing else matter's" after that...

ps:

Proud psOne/2/3/p owner.  I survived Aplcalyps3 and all I got was this lousy Signature.

CGI-Quality said:
SamuelRSmith said:
CGI-Quality said:
Mirson said:
CGI-Quality said:
Carl2291 said:
SamuelRSmith said:
Carl2291 said:
Its still in "Beta" mode, i think.

Anyay, what more do you want for free?

Something good.

Just because you dont think its good, doesnt mean it isnt.

You didn't HAVE to download it and you dont HAVE to go on it, so i dont see the problem.

Its an optional, free service what a lot of people like to use.

For some reason, many people complain about a service that isn't forced upon them. I don't understand it either, but to each his own, right?

So we can't give our opinions on Home because it isn't forced upon us?

If you have a problem with the service, simple, DON'T USE IT...But why bitch about it in the interim?

I wonder though, if it wasn't a Sony service, would you have even replied to me? Doubt it...

Don't worry, we're not using it. Why bitch about it? Because I would rather be using something that was better than Home if Sony had put its resources elsewhere.

I would have much rather had those resources go into something like The Getaway, and that's why I'm bitching.

As for you second line, don't turn this into a Sony Vs Microsoft thing. Firstly, it's unnecessary, and secondly it shows weakness in your argument, having to divert the subject and actually get in with snide attacks on the personality of the poster, rather than making more arguments against the poster's point.

First off, who mentioned Microsoft? And I don't see how I attacked him, but whatever...

Second, if you would have rather had those resources put else where, I got news for ya, that's YOUR problem. Obviously, Sony saw this service as useful and many people use it. The service won't die because a select few choose not to. If you want the Getaway, send an E-Mail to Sony. Otherwise, your "bitching" will get you no where.

Frankly, I don't see your argument, the service is remaining. You can deal with it, or get no where, your choice...

No, it's not just my problem, it's everyone's problem. What you seem to be failing to understand is that had Sony invested this money into something like the Getaway, or even into a decent marketing program, they could have had a much higher return on their investment, allowing them to invest further into other projects.

It's not as black and white as "it's making money now, what difference does it make" (not quoting anyone in particular), because the initial money that they spent could be making MORE money now, allowing them to spend more money on other projects, it's a circle. A poor investment of money hinders further investment.

And I won't send an email, because I live in the real world, and I know that sending that email will be about as useful as a cat-flap in an elephant house... at least debating it here will yield discussion and people reading what I have to say.

Finally, if you can't see my argument, you must actually be blind. At the very least this would mean that your posts are also worthless, as you're opposing an argument that you can't even see.



CGI-Quality said:
Mirson said:
CGI-Quality said:
Mirson said:
CGI-Quality said:
Carl2291 said:
SamuelRSmith said:

Something good.

Just because you dont think its good, doesnt mean it isnt.

You didn't HAVE to download it and you dont HAVE to go on it, so i dont see the problem.

Its an optional, free service what a lot of people like to use.

For some reason, many people complain about a service that isn't forced upon them. I don't understand it either, but to each his own, right?

So we can't give our opinions on Home because it isn't forced upon us?

If you have a problem with the service, simple, DON'T USE IT...But why bitch about it in the interim?

I wonder though, if it wasn't a Sony service, would you have quoted me? Doubt it...

I think a lot of the hate comes from the hype. Home was hyped for more than a year; it kept getting delayed, but it showed a lot of potential. When it was finally released, it was a boring, disappointing mess. I don't know how Sony made something so simple, awfully boring. It just didn't live up to the hype for many. There are still a bunch of problems with Home like having to redownload all the areas every month and waiting in line to play games. I'm going to be the better man and not comment on your second line.

But this is all subjective, as there are many people who use HOME and love it. There will always be something that doesn't live up to the hype or that disappoints. HOME won't be the first nor last to be plagued by this fact.

All I'm saying is, if you don't like the service, don't use it.

that's a great point CGI-

there will alway's people that do not think Home has lived upto it underdelivered and overpromised its all subjective on who you ask.

debateing this is pretty much a never ending thing and it will not change.

if it get's people to hot under the collar there is a solution that will cause that person less stress.

do not use the service. which some have stated  that they have and that's good for them but not for everyone, some may like the service.



I AM BOLO

100% lover "nothing else matter's" after that...

ps:

Proud psOne/2/3/p owner.  I survived Aplcalyps3 and all I got was this lousy Signature.

joeorc said:
SamuelRSmith said:
joeorc said:
SamuelRSmith said:
I can't agree to disagree on this, because I seriously feel that this was a massive waste of money on Sony's behalf.

And although it could be making a profit, now (nobody knows, - it was in development for a large amount of time, and requires quite an extensive architecture - also, Sony's been quite quiet on numbers since that $1,000,000 in a week - could have died quickly), there's no denying that if that money had been invested elsewhere, it could have been returning more of a profit for Sony.

there's no denying that if that money had been invested elsewhere, it could have been returning more of a profit for Sony.

In you OPINION...!

you may not agree to disagree on this , but I will agree to dissagree with you on this. I understand you feel very strong in your Opinion on HOME and nothing wrong with at. but on the same token you are going to find people that do not share your Opinion on Home .

Just as you would find people that do share your Opinion on Home and they would agree with you and there are people I am sure in the forum that indeed agree with you on your point's. I on the other hand do not.

so I am sorry you feel that way about Home and since you are not required to USE Home I would not use Home If I was you because it seem's to be getting you a little hot under the collar stress is not good for anyone esp. gamer's.

Heh, I'm not getting stressed, debating is what I do best. Hence why 90% of my posts are made in political threads, and I rarely venture into gaming threads, anymore.

But debating is essentially what forums are about - all this "agree to disagree" works well in real life, but on a forum, it quickly turns things into some kind of arse-patting group, and a niggling curiosity for homo-erotism aside, that's not really where I want to spend my free time.

so I gather this is more about creating a debate on the viability of Home vs' what Sony should have done instead of putting resources toward home?

I think if you had that it was a debate in the topic you would not have had so many passive post's

Yeah, you're right about where I'm going with this.

The reason why my initial posts were so empty to start with was because I was expecting to be ignored/not having worthwhile coming back at me.



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CGI-Quality said:
Mirson said:
CGI-Quality said:
Mirson said:
CGI-Quality said:

For some reason, many people complain about a service that isn't forced upon them. I don't understand it either, but to each his own, right?

So we can't give our opinions on Home because it isn't forced upon us?

If you have a problem with the service, simple, DON'T USE IT...But why bitch about it in the interim?

I wonder though, if it wasn't a Sony service, would you have quoted me? Doubt it...

I think a lot of the hate comes from the hype. Home was hyped for more than a year; it kept getting delayed, but it showed a lot of potential. When it was finally released, it was a boring, disappointing mess. I don't know how Sony made something so simple, awfully boring. It just didn't live up to the hype for many. There are still a bunch of problems with Home like having to redownload all the areas every month and waiting in line to play games. I'm going to be the better man and not comment on your second line.

But this is all subjective, as there are many people who use HOME and love it. There will always be something that doesn't live up to the hype or that disappoints. HOME won't be the first nor last to be plagued by this fact.

All I'm saying is, if you don't like the service, don't use it.

I rarely use it nowadays, but I can still criticize right? After countless delays and immense hype from Sony, I expected a lot of better than this.



bevochan said:

Anybody still messing around Home?  I tried it our for a 2nd time about a month ago and was flat out bored.  I sucks as a social networking; I rather go out to a bar.  Exploring around is also boring and lots of loading/downloading time with not much to do.

Home is supposedly gonna be revolutionary in the future, but I don't see that happening.


theres actually lots to do, if ur looking for a full game then look elsewhere



...not much time to post anymore, used to be awesome on here really good fond memories from VGchartz...

PSN: Skeeuk - XBL: SkeeUK - PC: Skeeuk

really miss the VGCHARTZ of 2008 - 2013...

I wouldn't have bought The Getaway. To me, that would have been a big waste of money and resources now that we're all being "experts" on which projects SCE should choose to fund or axe if they're deemed nonviable.

I don't know why that surfaced more than once as one of the "cons" of Home, considering that there is no correlation between the allocation of SCE Online resources for Home and a loss of resources from any particular title in development.



CGI-Quality said:
greenmedic88 said:
I wouldn't have bought The Getaway. To me, that would have been a big waste of money and resources now that we're all being "experts" on which projects SCE should choose to fund or axe if they're deemed nonviable.

I don't know why that surfaced more than once as one of the "cons" of Home, considering that there is no correlation between the allocation of SCE Online resources for Home and a loss of resources from any particular title in development.

That's partially what I'm saying, we have no clue on the investments/expenses. So how can we judge what was a waste and what wasn't?

Because we're all armchair "experts" on managing billion dollar corporations here.

"WTF is up with Home?! That's it; I could do a MUCH better job of running the company because I KNOW BETTER!"

If you want to take that a step further, you can simply say EVERY game you never had an intention of buying or playing (because they fell outside your demographic) is a WASTE of resources that would have been better spent on a game made JUST FOR YOU.

Right.



Lack of vision of some people here is astonishing.
Let me first of all that my personal opinion/use of Home is like 7/10.
But from a Sony perspective and for users i applause this feature as
1-It has no equivalent on consoles. It's innovative.
2-It's addressed to a dimension of gamers that not many games include: socializing.
3-There are some flaws sure, but it is a technical achievement.
4-It's a growing platform, keeping a good flow of new content regularly
5-It is YOU who make Home a nice platform or a boring thing.
6-There are many users hooked to Home

The problem with initial hype is that it's in man's nature to think positively and hope for the most incredible app, but no app can't leave everybody happy.