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offtopic question.. well kinda.
what differences are there in the new 65 chip compared to the old one?
just size? or are there more?




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darthdevidem said:
@shambolic

it's only confusing to us VG geks who know these things

the random tom, dick or harry

WON'T know or care about models in different continents, he'll want the cheapest model he can get in his walmart/Gamestation/whatever JAP shops sell games

Remember the 20GB PS3 did awful in japan compared to the 60GB. This alone makes me thing that while the 40Gb will do ok, it wont change much at all. We'll have to wait and see I guess.

Wow this 40GB anouncement by sony have really kicked these forums into life



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IBM begins production of 65nm Cell chip
Posted Mar 13th 2007 11:28AM by Donald Melanson
Filed under: Gaming

It's no secret that IBM has had some bigger -- or, rather -- smaller and better plans in the works for its Cell microprocessor, but we've now got the word from Big Blue itself, with the company announcing that it has started production of an advanced version of the chip, using a 65 nanometer manufacturing process as opposed to the current 90nm. Apart from being physically smaller, the 65nm chip should also result in lower power consumption and reduced costs to manufacturers using the processor. While that would include IBM itself -- which uses Cell processors in some of its own BladeCenter servers -- the company's most famous customer is, of course, Sony, who use the chip in a not-so-little game console of theirs you may heard of. On that front, it's been reported that Sony does indeed plan to use this new chip in future versions of the PlayStation 3 to help cut manufacturing costs, although that doesn't necessarily mean we'll see a cut in the price of the console itself anytime soon.

@Azzer, that's because the 20GB doesn't support WiFi and doesn't have any memory stick readers. The 20GB is "still" being sold in Japan.



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I'm sure many would like to have a larger HD in their ps3 w/o having to worry about putting in their own HD (many kids--non computer nuts--and non harcore gamers probably don't know how).

 Anyhow, my 20GB 360 HD is FULL and my 60GB ps3 hard drive only has around 8GB left (so will be full in a month--then I'll have to buy a bigger HD--which means I bought a 60GB HD for nothing).



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Anyhow, I'm so far behind in games to play that I'm not in a huge hurry (lol, haven't even gotten a chance to finish God of War II yet!) 

*~Onna76~* said:
IBM begins production of 65nm Cell chip
Posted Mar 13th 2007 11:28AM by Donald Melanson
Filed under: Gaming

It's no secret that IBM has had some bigger -- or, rather -- smaller and better plans in the works for its Cell microprocessor, but we've now got the word from Big Blue itself, with the company announcing that it has started production of an advanced version of the chip, using a 65 nanometer manufacturing process as opposed to the current 90nm. Apart from being physically smaller, the 65nm chip should also result in lower power consumption and reduced costs to manufacturers using the processor. While that would include IBM itself -- which uses Cell processors in some of its own BladeCenter servers -- the company's most famous customer is, of course, Sony, who use the chip in a not-so-little game console of theirs you may heard of. On that front, it's been reported that Sony does indeed plan to use this new chip in future versions of the PlayStation 3 to help cut manufacturing costs, although that doesn't necessarily mean we'll see a cut in the price of the console itself anytime soon.
oh ok, i get it. thanks i just had a miconception that the 65nm chip would run faster compered to the 90nm because of a thread here in VG. glad that turned out to be false. 3.2ghz is a big number, im impressed.


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sharky said:

RSX is not 550 mhz it's 500 so..if that spec is wrong the whole thing is probably wrong..

Also there is not 8 spe's in PS3 Cell..there is 7, one is disabled for yield.

It wouldn't do any good to have 8 in a certain model PS3, as games couldn't use it, since they must work in all PS3's, and all the PS3's already sold only have 7.

 

Those two specs being wrong dont automatically mean a 160GB PS3 couldn't happen, but they do lessen the credibility of the informant, as internal Sony documents as he claims they are, would not have those kind of spec errors.

 

And BTW, a current theory is that the 40GB PS3 will have 65nm chips. It would make sense as it would reduce costs a lot, thereby helping allow the low price. It's not confirmed though.


 that has never been confirmed.



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@Iclim... No it only helps reducing power consumption and costs for developers. Most likely it will also help reducing heat of the console as it needs less cooling,... but don't shoot me if I'm wrong ;)



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I think this SKU is for Singapore:

http://www.ps3forums.com/showpost.php?p=1992845&postcount=81

But it may also be for Japan, I guess? The model name is the one you posted Onna.

 



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(cough) (cough) bullshit

Come again

@NJ5, that 80GB is an "Asian" version, which is being used in for instance Thailand, Hong Kong etc. Japan still has the 20GB and 60GB and doesn't have the 80GB, like Korea has. The specs of that version remained the same comparing to the 60GB. I don't know if Japan will also get the 80GB. If it has the same specs, its kind of useless. Unless you'll kick out the 60GB, drop in the 80GB and then the 160GB as well... but that's just my wild imagination

Playstation Japan:

http://www.jp.playstation.com/hardware/ps3/

 



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