Wow bashing the 360? Typical fanboy posts
PROUD MEMBER OF THE PLAYSTATION 3 : RPG FAN CLUB
Wow bashing the 360? Typical fanboy posts
PROUD MEMBER OF THE PLAYSTATION 3 : RPG FAN CLUB
I just read some of those comments....THOSE are some passionate fanboys, there.
Bah!
so your comparing 3 consoles to one? wow the depths some of these sony fanboys will go get gain a "victory".....sad.
HHG is no sony defence force. That website was amazing back in the day. Best spin ever.
kowenicki said:
It is really quite simple... the fanboy bollocks in the article deserves a similar rebuke... so.. MS revenue > Sony revenue MS profit > Sony profit MS market Cap > Sony Market cap MS cash reserves > Sony Cash reserves On any measure you care to take (or invent)... MS, from a business perspective, annihilates Sony. |
Isn't Sony revenue still higher? Or have they dipped that low recently? I thought Sony was around $80 Billion and MS around $60 Billion?
Try to be reasonable... its easier than you think...
DirtyP2002 said: If you do not know HHG: He is a small guy hoping for this one growth spurt, who claims to have "insider information", but he does not. He just thinks of stuff happening eventually. This stuff can not be big and strange enough. Here are some things he made up:
I just wanted to share this. As I said, I had a laugh.
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LOL! I need to see the articles. Thanks for sharing, this site will be really funny hahahahaha.
I heard that the entire Ford brand outsold the Toyota Corolla. Great job Ford.
kowenicki; actually, Sony is bigger in practically every measure except sheer profit. Twice the amount of employees, more equity and more assets. Remember how much more than the Playstation they make, they're a Hi-Fi company first and foremost.
so they should sell more they have not 1,not 2 but 3 platforms
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kowenicki said:
I have no idea what the number of employees has to do with it.. but here are the three main measures Market cap ( the real true measure ) Microsoft $216 billion Sony $22.77 billion Microsoft 10 times bigger in real measurable size Revenue Microsoft $61.17 billion Sony $82.22 billion Profit Microsoft $16 billion Sony $1 billion LOSS
So you are right on turnover... worryingly they can turnover $82 billion dollars and still make a loss. So unless they can cut costs big time all over the place any price aggression in any market (TV, Phones or Gaming) seems fool hardy.
However, MS is 10 times bigger than MS and could almost buy up Sony from 1 years profits... Sony as we know made a loss. |
You're right that it is worrying that a 82 billion dollar turnover can result in a deficit, quite a feat indeed.
However, Sony is listed as a significantly bigger company on all kinds of lists, scuh as this;
http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/global500/2009/full_list/index.html
The market cap will always be bigger on software companies, Google would be another example. This is due to the fact that in terms of assets, the production of software and subsequent rights to the licenses that are implicit have an entiely different form of value than physical hardware which has a more direct, "tangible" value in comparison. Seeing as Sony is primarly a hardware manufacturer/distributor, they won't reach the same market cap. In contrast, fluxuation in stock will more greatly affect software manufacturers as said values remain more liquid as they cannot be measured literally against a set of retail guidelines and direct hardware value.
All in all; Microsoft has the highest market cap, no doubt, but Sony remains the bigger company.
It doesn't really matter though, the console wars are not decided on turnovers (not directly anyways) and number of employees, nor the ownership of Operational System licenses or lack thereof, as we can clearly see...
kowenicki said: Revenue Microsoft $61.17 billion Sony $82.22 billion Profit Microsoft $16 billion Sony $1 billion LOSS |
It would be interesting to see what Nintendo's Profit/revenue is, just to have something to compare it against. I have no idea where to find that type of numbers.
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