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famousringo said:
Inigo13 said:
silentmac said:
famousringo said:
I realize that I'm really late to the party, but here's a list of third party million-sellers that had a larger NA launch week than The Conduit:

Red Steel
Guitar Hero 3
Guitar Hero: WT
Rock Band
Star Wars: TFU
Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games
EA Sports Active

There are 27 third party games which have sold a million copies with a smaller NA first week than The Conduit.

Except for Red Steel and arguably Star Wars: TFU, none of those are core titles.  Red Steel was a launch title and Star Wars has the Star Wars name behind it...

Also Red Steel and EA Sports active are the only new IPs, and EA Sports active is catering to the starved Wii balance board crowd.  I mean Wii Fit was lacking in many ways for an exercise game and most of the others in that genre interactive video shovelware.

Basically, I don't get your point in comparing it to these titles?

It should be compared to:

Metroid Prime 3

Medal of Honor: Heroes 2

Call of Duty: World at War Wii

and HD titles like

Perfect Dark Zero

Killzone 2 etc.

which still isn't fair because Killzone 2 is a PS3 showpiece title and the rest aren't new IPs...

I think Halo should be totally left out of the discussion because nothing even compares to it in sales.

I'm pretty sure his point was that only 7 third party Wii games opened higher than The Conduit, and The Conduit opened larger than 27 third party, million selling Wii games.

Basically, any Wii third party game that opened as big as The Conduit has gotten over 1 million in sales.

I was just presenting raw information, really, not trying to prove a specific point. But that's more or less the conclusion I would draw from that information.

After a little digging, I did find one third party title that launched over 100k in NA and didn't sell a million: Madden 09. It's a somewhat unique in that it has almost no appeal outside of NA. If The Conduit sells proportional to Madden 09 in NA, EU sales should push it over the million bar.

Sorry, I didn't realize that was ALL of the third party titles that started higher than The Conduit.  I was puzzled as to why you would compare TCon's sales to such a menagerie of games...  I see your point now though...



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alfredofroylan said:
Well according to Sega Merch representative the game has a strong start:
What he will give us is this: "Though it is still early days in the retail life of the game, we are seeing very strong week one sales and being the best shooter on the Wii means that we think we will see this game out there and selling well for a long time." And when we press him for specific sales projections, he declines, saying only that SEGA does not release those numbers.

We can always point to anecdotal evidence which backs up Ratcliffe's claims -- specifically, reports of The Conduit selling out at retailers and lots of talk about the game on message boards and blogs, both of which are good signs. Sales tracking site VGchartz projects that the shooter amassed sales of nearly 100,000 units since it launched, information which cannot be verified until official NPD reports hit in the near future. What can be verified, however, is The Conduit's strong online presence. SEGA has previously said that online activity for the game is very high, which suggests that Wii owners are, in fact, picking the title up and connecting to play against others.

http://wii.ign.com/articles/100/1002642p1.html

They are clearly lying. They wouldn't admit to the game flopping so it clearly must have.

I know this because the internet told me.

 



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ClaudeLv250 said:
alfredofroylan said:
Well according to Sega Merch representative the game has a strong start:
What he will give us is this: "Though it is still early days in the retail life of the game, we are seeing very strong week one sales and being the best shooter on the Wii means that we think we will see this game out there and selling well for a long time." And when we press him for specific sales projections, he declines, saying only that SEGA does not release those numbers.

We can always point to anecdotal evidence which backs up Ratcliffe's claims -- specifically, reports of The Conduit selling out at retailers and lots of talk about the game on message boards and blogs, both of which are good signs. Sales tracking site VGchartz projects that the shooter amassed sales of nearly 100,000 units since it launched, information which cannot be verified until official NPD reports hit in the near future. What can be verified, however, is The Conduit's strong online presence. SEGA has previously said that online activity for the game is very high, which suggests that Wii owners are, in fact, picking the title up and connecting to play against others.

http://wii.ign.com/articles/100/1002642p1.html

They are clearly lying. They wouldn't admit to the game flopping so it clearly must have.

I know this because the internet told me.

 

Yea, there is no way this game did well by selling only 150k in two weeks. Sega is just trying to save face. You'd figure after 3 flops, they would learn to stop trying to promote "core" Wii games anymore.  I have never seen a company lie so much, the game was a bomb.

 

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Erm the internet talking to people and certain forum members hearing voices is not necessarily the same thing lol



ClaudeLv250 said:
alfredofroylan said:
Well according to Sega Merch representative the game has a strong start:
What he will give us is this: "Though it is still early days in the retail life of the game, we are seeing very strong week one sales and being the best shooter on the Wii means that we think we will see this game out there and selling well for a long time." And when we press him for specific sales projections, he declines, saying only that SEGA does not release those numbers.

We can always point to anecdotal evidence which backs up Ratcliffe's claims -- specifically, reports of The Conduit selling out at retailers and lots of talk about the game on message boards and blogs, both of which are good signs. Sales tracking site VGchartz projects that the shooter amassed sales of nearly 100,000 units since it launched, information which cannot be verified until official NPD reports hit in the near future. What can be verified, however, is The Conduit's strong online presence. SEGA has previously said that online activity for the game is very high, which suggests that Wii owners are, in fact, picking the title up and connecting to play against others.

http://wii.ign.com/articles/100/1002642p1.html

They are clearly lying. They wouldn't admit to the game flopping so it clearly must have.

I know this because the internet told me.

 

No matter what he says, it's the internet and the fanboys who chooses if the game is a flop or not.



tombi123 said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
Told you even numbers this good would still get comments about flopping.


It sold the same amount as Haze and 40K less than Too Human. How can that be considered anything other than disappointing.

First, the sales you see now are Americas only. Second, the drop-off from week one to week two is much steeper for the two games you mentioned than for Conduit. Conduit will have great legs and will sell more than either of those games in the long run. Thanks for playing.



Timmah! said:
tombi123 said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
Told you even numbers this good would still get comments about flopping.


It sold the same amount as Haze and 40K less than Too Human. How can that be considered anything other than disappointing.

First, the sales you see now are Americas only. Second, the drop-off from week one to week two is much steeper for the two games you mentioned than for Conduit. Conduit will have great legs and will sell more than either of those games in the long run. Thanks for playing.

And it didn't cost $25 million or $70 million.



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I agree Timmah!, this'll sell more than 1m quite easily imo. Judging by the sales of House of The Dead Overkill, which has made a profit according to Sega, I'd say that Sega are halfway to making a profit after only 2 weeks worth of sales in the States alone. The impressive opening sales of a new 'hardcore' game with a new IP bodes well for The Grinder imo. Publishers will be fighting tooth and nail for it assuming that Sega haven't already done a deal for it depending on sales of The Conduit.

The marketing guys from High Voltage Software have done a stellar job, and shown that viral marketing - when done properly - can work really well.