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silentmac on 10 July 2009
famousringo said:
I realize that I'm really late to the party, but here's a list of third party million-sellers that had a larger NA launch week than The Conduit:

Red Steel
Guitar Hero 3
Guitar Hero: WT
Rock Band
Star Wars: TFU
Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games
EA Sports Active

There are 27 third party games which have sold a million copies with a smaller NA first week than The Conduit.

Except for Red Steel and arguably Star Wars: TFU, none of those are core titles.  Red Steel was a launch title and Star Wars has the Star Wars name behind it...

Also Red Steel and EA Sports active are the only new IPs, and EA Sports active is catering to the starved Wii balance board crowd.  I mean Wii Fit was lacking in many ways for an exercise game and most of the others in that genre interactive video shovelware.

Basically, I don't get your point in comparing it to these titles?

It should be compared to:

Metroid Prime 3

Medal of Honor: Heroes 2

Call of Duty: World at War Wii

and HD titles like

Perfect Dark Zero

Killzone 2 etc.

which still isn't fair because Killzone 2 is a PS3 showpiece title and the rest aren't new IPs...

I think Halo should be totally left out of the discussion because nothing even compares to it in sales.



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Inigo13 on 10 July 2009
silentmac said:
famousringo said:
I realize that I'm really late to the party, but here's a list of third party million-sellers that had a larger NA launch week than The Conduit:

Red Steel
Guitar Hero 3
Guitar Hero: WT
Rock Band
Star Wars: TFU
Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games
EA Sports Active

There are 27 third party games which have sold a million copies with a smaller NA first week than The Conduit.

Except for Red Steel and arguably Star Wars: TFU, none of those are core titles.  Red Steel was a launch title and Star Wars has the Star Wars name behind it...

Also Red Steel and EA Sports active are the only new IPs, and EA Sports active is catering to the starved Wii balance board crowd.  I mean Wii Fit was lacking in many ways for an exercise game and most of the others in that genre interactive video shovelware.

Basically, I don't get your point in comparing it to these titles?

It should be compared to:

Metroid Prime 3

Medal of Honor: Heroes 2

Call of Duty: World at War Wii

and HD titles like

Perfect Dark Zero

Killzone 2 etc.

which still isn't fair because Killzone 2 is a PS3 showpiece title and the rest aren't new IPs...

I think Halo should be totally left out of the discussion because nothing even compares to it in sales.

I'm pretty sure his point was that only 7 third party Wii games opened higher than The Conduit, and The Conduit opened larger than 27 third party, million selling Wii games.

Basically, any Wii third party game that opened as big as The Conduit has gotten over 1 million in sales.



CatFangs806 on 10 July 2009

I think we can safely say that the game will at least reach 750K in sales.



Zucas on 10 July 2009

Title should survive a little better than Overkill and Madworld simply because it's not like them on other aspects. Not because Conduit is T but because those were so M haha.

I really wasn't so nervous about how it would start in America but it is Europe I'm curious about. Shooters can be a hit or miss for them... aside from the UK which has become US Jr with Soccer replacing Football (or football still being it considering word changes). But we'll see how it does over there. Sega has built up a pretty good name in Europe so maybe that'll help push it too.



Ryudo on 10 July 2009

Off topic but @senortaco awesome avatar.
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joeorc on 10 July 2009

pretty good for a New iP , congratz to the developer's. That's pretty good, Glad they have the New iP off to a great start. I am pretty sure it will Pass over a cool Million over time. Once agian Congratz to Nintendo and the Developer's .



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Ryudo on 10 July 2009
joeorc said:
pretty good for a New iP , congratz to the developer's. That's pretty good, Glad they have the New iP off to a great start. I am pretty sure it will Pass over a cool Million over time. Once agian Congratz to Sega and HVS .

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famousringo on 10 July 2009
Inigo13 said:
silentmac said:
famousringo said:
I realize that I'm really late to the party, but here's a list of third party million-sellers that had a larger NA launch week than The Conduit:

Red Steel
Guitar Hero 3
Guitar Hero: WT
Rock Band
Star Wars: TFU
Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games
EA Sports Active

There are 27 third party games which have sold a million copies with a smaller NA first week than The Conduit.

Except for Red Steel and arguably Star Wars: TFU, none of those are core titles.  Red Steel was a launch title and Star Wars has the Star Wars name behind it...

Also Red Steel and EA Sports active are the only new IPs, and EA Sports active is catering to the starved Wii balance board crowd.  I mean Wii Fit was lacking in many ways for an exercise game and most of the others in that genre interactive video shovelware.

Basically, I don't get your point in comparing it to these titles?

It should be compared to:

Metroid Prime 3

Medal of Honor: Heroes 2

Call of Duty: World at War Wii

and HD titles like

Perfect Dark Zero

Killzone 2 etc.

which still isn't fair because Killzone 2 is a PS3 showpiece title and the rest aren't new IPs...

I think Halo should be totally left out of the discussion because nothing even compares to it in sales.

I'm pretty sure his point was that only 7 third party Wii games opened higher than The Conduit, and The Conduit opened larger than 27 third party, million selling Wii games.

Basically, any Wii third party game that opened as big as The Conduit has gotten over 1 million in sales.

I was just presenting raw information, really, not trying to prove a specific point. But that's more or less the conclusion I would draw from that information.

After a little digging, I did find one third party title that launched over 100k in NA and didn't sell a million: Madden 09. It's a somewhat unique in that it has almost no appeal outside of NA. If The Conduit sells proportional to Madden 09 in NA, EU sales should push it over the million bar.



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joeorc on 10 July 2009
Ryudo said:
joeorc said:
pretty good for a New iP , congratz to the developer's. That's pretty good, Glad they have the New iP off to a great start. I am pretty sure it will Pass over a cool Million over time. Once agian Congratz to Sega and HVS .

Fixed

lol..i did say developer's..! , and it just add's another New Ip to Nintendo's Wii selection of Game's. Yes Congratz to Sega An HVS but i did say congratz to the developer's so fixed  it you did...LOL...



I AM BOLO

100% lover "nothing else matter's" after that...

ps:

Proud psOne/2/3/p owner.  I survived Aplcalyps3 and all I got was this lousy Signature.

alfredofroylan on 10 July 2009

Well according to Sega Merch representative the game has a strong start:

What he will give us is this: "Though it is still early days in the retail life of the game, we are seeing very strong week one sales and being the best shooter on the Wii means that we think we will see this game out there and selling well for a long time." And when we press him for specific sales projections, he declines, saying only that SEGA does not release those numbers.

We can always point to anecdotal evidence which backs up Ratcliffe's claims -- specifically, reports of The Conduit selling out at retailers and lots of talk about the game on message boards and blogs, both of which are good signs. Sales tracking site VGchartz projects that the shooter amassed sales of nearly 100,000 units since it launched, information which cannot be verified until official NPD reports hit in the near future. What can be verified, however, is The Conduit's strong online presence. SEGA has previously said that online activity for the game is very high, which suggests that Wii owners are, in fact, picking the title up and connecting to play against others.

http://wii.ign.com/articles/100/1002642p1.html