Windows 7 is a bunch of ideas stolen from linux distros slapped on top of a more stable Vista. It's nice, but you could have the same features at absolutely zero cost.
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ZenfoldorVGI said:
Unless you want to play games, in which case you have to do so without DX10 or DX11(some games do, and will require these in the future). If you are looking for a basic OS to run on a computer, XP is cheaper since you probably already own it, but it doesn't give you much better performance than Win7, and it also lacks many security features, and soon the support will drop for it. For 49.99 you can upgrade to a much better OS. If you don't care about features though, just get a free OS off the internet, and see how that works out for ya. Sounds to me like a lot of people are just trying to find an excuse not to upgrade, like they do with ever new OS, console, or whatnot. Windows 7 is an Xbox 360. If you aren't interested in a feature rich enviroment, improved graphics, or any other improvements, just go download a NES emulator for free. Doesn't hurt that the 360 is 49.99 for a limited time though.
...no, XP is not BETTER than Windows 7. It might be cheaper, and easier to get(assuming you already own it), but calling it better is like saying the PS1 is better than the PS3. The PS3 can play every game the PS1 can with BC, and it also plays, ya know, PS3 games, and has a shitload more modern features, support, and games. It's like that. Win7 can do everything XP can do, and better, without being slower, and has a shitload of modern features that XP doesn't nor ever shall offer. Gamers will own Windows 7. If you just use your computer as a netbook, might as well have the blackberry OS for all that matters. |
Honestly I probably would switch over to Ubuntu, but unfortunetly my computer has to support game play due to my wife wanting to play MP games with me. It's a no option. So I will be using Windows. I'm also not happy about Wine game support, it's relativly haphhazard. I also don't believe I should be paying a regular fee(Cedega) for the privilage to buy a game and to play on a Linux distro.
As for the other use I don't need windows, I do need more memory effiency. In my worst cases I typicly have about 12 active applications running(that's worst not average). When I tried it a test version Vista I pretty much didn't like the performance I was getting. So I went back to XP. If Win7 handles the memory usage better I would be more than willing to look at it. So far it's CPU usage is better than Vista wich is a plus.
... to follow up with your last comment. I believe better is equivlent to the values of an individual.
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| ChichiriMuyo said: Windows 7 is a bunch of ideas stolen from linux distros slapped on top of a more stable Vista. It's nice, but you could have the same features at absolutely zero cost. |
Yeah the public tried that already with the netbooks they purchased then sent them back once they released they had a linux distro on board which they did not feel was anything like windows. The gui on linux distro does not go as deep as the windows gui hence you still need to dip into command line options more often.
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The main reason I wanted to get windows 7 was the gaming performance increases I thought it would get but all the websites i've seen comparing windows 7 and vista in terms of fps , show that there is no noticable difference between the two.
DeltaXIII said:
I've been using the beta and RC. The XP virtual machine wasn't a problem to set up. Basically just run an exe or two and then taking time, but wasn't difficult. I haven't done extensive tests on performace or compatibility on it, but most of the games I've played have run on 7 anyhow or required Dos Box, which XP required too. Do you know of any specific programs or games that are supposed to have trouble? If I have it, I can look into it. |
From what I've gathered, many processor types have their virtualization capabilities disabled by default, so among other things you'd have to dick around with the BIOS in order to get it working. It seems you had yours already enabled - and as I said, the hassle wouldn't be a big problem anyway, so meh.
And you don't really have to do any tests if you don't want to, but I'm mainly concerned about games like these:
The Fallout Series (1, 2, Tactics)
Heroes of Might and Magic 3 - 5
Infinity Engine games (Planescape: Torment, the Baldur's Gate series)
Newer Blizzard games (StarCraft, WarCraft 3)
Beyond Good and Evil, Psychonauts, AvP etc.
Basically late 90's - mid 00's games - anything older can be run via DosBox, and newer ones probably work anyway.
And here are a few tougher ones:
Emperor: Battle for Dune
Warhammer 40K: Chaos Gate
These games are already broken by XP, so you'd have to run a second virtual machine inside the XP one in order to get them to work. It's a big enough pain in XP, so I don't expect that you want to bother - if you even have them, that is. :p
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| Imperial said: The main reason I wanted to get windows 7 was the gaming performance increases I thought it would get but all the websites i've seen comparing windows 7 and vista in terms of fps , show that there is no noticable difference between the two. |
No noticeable improvements with todays version of Direct X (no noticeable decline either) but as 11 comes out then you can expect to see the gap widen. I think window 7 is definately the upgrade for XP users though.
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Mise said: And you don't really have to do any tests if you don't want to, but I'm mainly concerned about games like these: The Fallout Series (1, 2, Tactics) Heroes of Might and Magic 3 - 5 Infinity Engine games (Planescape: Torment, the Baldur's Gate series) Newer Blizzard games (StarCraft, WarCraft 3) Beyond Good and Evil, Psychonauts, AvP etc. Basically late 90's - mid 00's games - anything older can be run via DosBox, and newer ones probably work anyway. And here are a few tougher ones: Emperor: Battle for Dune Warhammer 40K: Chaos Gate These games are already broken by XP, so you'd have to run a second virtual machine inside the XP one in order to get them to work. It's a big enough pain in XP, so I don't expect that you want to bother - if you even have them, that is. :p |
Fallout 1 seems to work in Win 7 itself. It requires some compatibility setting. I used it with all the setting check boxes marked and in Win 98 compatibility, but it seems to be working so far. I'll play some more later.
Heroes of Might and Magic 5, Starcraft and Beyond Good and Evil also work fine in Win 7 itself, but they didn't require any setting changes when I ran them. The others that I do have, I can't find the disks for, so I'm not going to bother looking into them. From what I've seen so far, games haven't been too much of a problem in 7, I think the XP virtual machine is mainly more for other specific softwares.
Hmm, I don't think I tried the Emporer Dune game, but the earlier RTS was alright. I preferred the 1992 Dune game though. Not a RTS exactly, but it was pretty fun from what I remember.
Mise said:
I don't think any OS currently available runs slower than Vista. Then again, a performance improvement is always nice - even though I've gotten Vista to run OK after gutting about 50% of its pointless services. 2) The new toolbar is awesome. Just use it. You'll see.
Uh huh. 3) I am blown away by the new media functionality. You can now access your media library over an internet connection......and it works REALLY well. I've tried it out in several different situations, and it is seamless. You just open up your media player and there's your stuff. Even HD video streams damn near flawlessly just as if you were sitting in your own network. (This could probably be added to Vista too, but I don't know/remember if it's reliant on the new Homegroup feature or not.)
I guess it's nice, but I've never had the need to access my media library over the internet, since I lug my laptop around quite a bit. 4) Homegroups make it much easier for Joe Schmoe to set up a network.
Haven't really had problems with networks before, but OK. Don't have a 360, so 5) doesn't apply to me. 6) It will have free Windows XP virtualization in some of the skus.
You'll need Pro or above and a virtualization-capable processor in order to use this (which I apparently have), apparently it's a hassle to set up and run (a minor issue), and its performance and compatibility are suspect - I'd have to actually test this before deciding on anything. Then again, IF it works as intended, you might be onto something here. 7) Even in its release candidate status, it NEVER crashes.
Correction: It hasn't crashed for now. Zen says: Also, it increase performance over Vista, and comes with Direct X 11, for better graphics and performance on your games. I recently switched from DX9 to DX10, and noticed only marginal performance increase. Then again,I only tested three old games that were designed for XP only - I'd probably need a side-by-side comparison between DX9, 10 and 11 to better examine their benefits. Sold?
Nope. Sorry, but while it does seem to be a decent step up from Vista in the performance department, I don't see anything that would say "BUY THIS RIGHT F'N NOW". At the very least I'll have to test it before buying to see whether it's worth it or not - and I know a few tech geeks who'll buy it anyway, so I'll get my chance. :p |
Because it's 49.99 dollars until the 11th of this month, when it moves up to 120? Maybe? Yethink?
I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.
NO NO, NO NO NO.
| ChichiriMuyo said: Windows 7 is a bunch of ideas stolen from linux distros slapped on top of a more stable Vista. It's nice, but you could have the same features at absolutely zero cost. |
Not if you're a gamer, you couldn't.
I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.
NO NO, NO NO NO.
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