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Bluelava on 02 July 2009
BKK2 said:

I've added previously announced figures from GAME to the chart in the OP:

 


 Wii NDS DSi PS3 PSP XB360 Total PS2
27/06/09 5.4 9.1 0.3 2.2 3.3 3.9 24.2
31/01/09 5.1 9.0
1.9 3.2 3.3 22.5
03/01/09 4.9 8.8
1.9 3.2 3.2 22.0
13/09/08 3.6 7.1
1.4 2.9 2.3 17.3
28/06/08 3.1 6.4
1.3 2.8 2.2 15.8
02/02/08 2.2 5.5
1.0 2.7 1.9 13.3
05/01/08 2.0 5.4
0.9 2.6 1.8 12.7
15/09/07 1.1 3.8
0.4 2.2 1.3 8.8 9.6

Next update: September 22

Well that makes things look even more wrong in regards to the DS.

 Going by those figures the DS Lite sold 200k in January alone...but only 100k total for Feb,March,April,May and June combined?? That seems nuts.

Now obviously the DS Lite sales would slow due to the DSi..but they wouldn't drop that much surely (especially since Dsi wasn't released until april).



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BKK2 on 02 July 2009
Bluelava said:
BKK2 said:

I've added previously announced figures from GAME to the chart in the OP:

 


 Wii NDS DSi PS3 PSP XB360 Total PS2
27/06/09 5.4 9.1 0.3 2.2 3.3 3.9 24.2
31/01/09 5.1 9.0
1.9 3.2 3.3 22.5
03/01/09 4.9 8.8
1.9 3.2 3.2 22.0
13/09/08 3.6 7.1
1.4 2.9 2.3 17.3
28/06/08 3.1 6.4
1.3 2.8 2.2 15.8
02/02/08 2.2 5.5
1.0 2.7 1.9 13.3
05/01/08 2.0 5.4
0.9 2.6 1.8 12.7
15/09/07 1.1 3.8
0.4 2.2 1.3 8.8 9.6

Next update: September 22

Well that makes things look even more wrong in regards to the DS.

 Going by those figures the DS Lite sold 200k in January alone...but only 100k total for Feb,March,April,May and June combined?? That seems nuts.

Now obviously the DS Lite sales would slow due to the DSi..but they wouldn't drop that much surely (especially since Dsi wasn't released until april).

January is one of the biggest months of the year for sales, so it's no surprise that DS sold 200k that month. Nintendo announced DSi for Europe in February, and obviously sales dried up as a result. Just look at Japanese sales to see how much DSlite sells compared to DSi, it's insignificant.



sinha on 02 July 2009

You have to take into consideration that a very large percentage of the potential DS consumers in the UK already had a DS prior to 2009. Once everyone else has a DS already it's not like people with no interest in gaming are going to buy them just so it continues to sell at the same astronomical rate.



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It's a virus where you buy it and you play it with your friends and they're like, "Oh my God that's so cool, I'm gonna go buy it." So you stop playing it after two months, but they buy it and they stop playing it after two months but they've showed it to someone else who then go out and buy it and so on. Everyone I know bought one and nobody turns it on. - Epic Games president Mike Capps

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sinha on 02 July 2009
RolStoppable said:
I suspect that the rounding is drawing a wrong picture here. The Wii probably had sold 5.051m by January 31st and now stands at 5.449m, so it sold about 400k units in the last five months.

With the 360 it's probably the exact opposite, the numbers being something like 3.349m and 3.851m respectively, so that just makes about 500k units sold in the last five months.

...

The 360 is still ahead of the Wii. I guess this chart must be wrong then. There's no other explanation.


Well, there's one other explanation.

But it does seem rather improbable. 

And even if it's the case, it's almost certainly only temporary. 

But there is a small chance it isn't temporary.

 



We don't provide the 'easy to program for' console that they [developers] want, because 'easy to program for' means that anybody will be able to take advantage of pretty much what the hardware can do, so the question is what do you do for the rest of the nine and half years? It's a learning process. - SCEI president Kaz Hirai

It's a virus where you buy it and you play it with your friends and they're like, "Oh my God that's so cool, I'm gonna go buy it." So you stop playing it after two months, but they buy it and they stop playing it after two months but they've showed it to someone else who then go out and buy it and so on. Everyone I know bought one and nobody turns it on. - Epic Games president Mike Capps

We have a real culture of thrift. The goal that I had in bringing a lot of the packaged goods folks into Activision about 10 years ago was to take all the fun out of making video games. - Activision CEO Bobby Kotick

 

BKK2 on 02 July 2009
RolStoppable said:
I suspect that the rounding is drawing a wrong picture here. The Wii probably had sold 5.051m by January 31st and now stands at 5.449m, so it sold about 400k units in the last five months.

With the 360 it's probably the exact opposite, the numbers being something like 3.349m and 3.851m respectively, so that just makes about 500k units sold in the last five months.

...

The 360 is still ahead of the Wii. I guess this chart must be wrong then. There's no other explanation.

Yes, the numbers are heavily rounded, as you say there is a margin of error of 50k each way.



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nojustno on 02 July 2009
RolStoppable said:
sinha said:
RolStoppable said:
I suspect that the rounding is drawing a wrong picture here. The Wii probably had sold 5.051m by January 31st and now stands at 5.449m, so it sold about 400k units in the last five months.

With the 360 it's probably the exact opposite, the numbers being something like 3.349m and 3.851m respectively, so that just makes about 500k units sold in the last five months.

...

The 360 is still ahead of the Wii. I guess this chart must be wrong then. There's no other explanation.


Well, there's one other explanation.

But it does seem rather improbable. 

And even if it's the case, it's almost certainly only temporary. 

But there is a small chance it isn't temporary.

You mean that these numbers aren't a simple, honest mistake, but rather it was done on purpose because Microsoft paid them off?

I hope you're joking




gebx on 02 July 2009

Wii and 360 numbers could of been flipped... it happened not to long ago on an NDP report (State of Gaming? I believe it was NDP)



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welshbloke on 02 July 2009

My boy has a DSi which I purchased whilst on holiday in the US. Everybody else who owns a DS still owns the orignal with only one person having made the switch to the DSi and then only because the DS was damaged. So anecdotaly in my circle it is born out.

I cannot speak for the Wii as everyone that purchased one has effectively moth balled them.



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sinha on 02 July 2009

sorry, ignore



We don't provide the 'easy to program for' console that they [developers] want, because 'easy to program for' means that anybody will be able to take advantage of pretty much what the hardware can do, so the question is what do you do for the rest of the nine and half years? It's a learning process. - SCEI president Kaz Hirai

It's a virus where you buy it and you play it with your friends and they're like, "Oh my God that's so cool, I'm gonna go buy it." So you stop playing it after two months, but they buy it and they stop playing it after two months but they've showed it to someone else who then go out and buy it and so on. Everyone I know bought one and nobody turns it on. - Epic Games president Mike Capps

We have a real culture of thrift. The goal that I had in bringing a lot of the packaged goods folks into Activision about 10 years ago was to take all the fun out of making video games. - Activision CEO Bobby Kotick

 

Neos on 02 July 2009

These numbers are wrong.



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