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Unless NMH2 is a LOT better than NMH I can't see this series having any more success on HD consoles than say, Tenchu did. It's just not up to par. I know people loved it and it was great on Wii but there's so many more fully fleshed out games on HD consoles.

On the flip side... He could easily take it to PSP which would make a lot of sense for the Japanese market.



 

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xlost8 said:
sc94597 said:
This could very well mean that he is talking about a console next generation. Especially if you look at the reason. They said they did all they can on the Wii, well they can't do much better on the other current generation consoles and in some ways it will be a downgrade(controls).

Where does he mention that? I mean with a statement like this: 

“I think this is the last No More Heroes that is going to be developed on Wii. To expand No More Heroes to new possibilities, we need a new platform. Wii is a great platform, but we’ve done everything we can with it now.”

That shows and presents that he said he has done what he could with the Wii and would like to tackle another platform and that means this generation because he hasn't touched the PS3 or Xbox 360 yet.

Where does he say that the "new platform" is a current generation one? He mentions that they did all they can with the Wii right? Well what do the other consoles from this generation  have in terms of gameplay that will add to the game? Also they already "tackled" other consoles this generation with the multiplatform game they said they were making. No More Heroes Desperate Struggle is releasing in 2010. That is heading toward the end of this generation, and I highly doubt they have enough time to build the game for HD standards. This means, they are starting on a whole new platform which has a higher graphical standard. This will increase developement time and costs. This means if they start developing it right after(or before) Desperate Stuggle is release they will be lucky to release the game right before the first Next Generation console releases. Everybody will have their attention to these consoles, and will ignore the game that has a much higher budget than the Wii games. Also if they want to implement motion controls they will have to wait even longer for that to release on the respective consoles. Now if you say they don't have to up the graphical work and keep the budget they have, then it is very likely that the game won't sell as much as it would have with better graphics. The most I see is a port to other current generation consoles, and then the third game being multiplatform next generation.



Carl2291 said:
sc94597 said:
This could very well mean that he is talking about a console next generation. Especially if you look at the reason. They said they did all they can on the Wii, well they can't do much better on the other current generation consoles and in some ways it will be a downgrade(controls).

Sony remotes?

Like I said in my other post. How long do you think is left in this generation? They don't have time to wait for the "sony remote". Also why would they limit their install base with an ad-on? It seems much more intelligant to release the third No More Heroes next generation if the Wii is really limiting the experience, and focus on their other games in development, such as their announced multiplatform game.



Voltaire said:
bardicverse said:
The funny part is, despite the praise the game has gotten, I think it is as shallow a game as the mini-game collections that come out on the Wii. This game really won't really gain any more attention from the HD crowd because games like Assasin's Creed are much, much better games. The only reason NMH gets attention as is, is because it stands out for being different from other Wii games, especially with a M rated title. For an HD system, games like God of War 3 and Assasins Creed 2 and Modern Warfare 2 will leave a Suda production in the dust.


I have to agree. Whenever a half-way decent game is released on Wii, people go crazy. But only for that very reason, that its on Wii. The PS360 get quality releases all the time, Wii gets a bi-monthly (if at that) good game. Look at The Conduit. No one would give a rats ass if it was released to compete with Resistance, Modern Warfare, Halo, L4D, etc. The very fact that its a Wii release is what its all about.

Its very true. While there are some solid Wii games available, the market for solid games that aren't sports genre or family-friendly/party games is still starving. When thrown a reasonable title, this market jumps at it like starved wolves. Exactly as you say about the Conduit, its not as stunning as some HD FPS games, but its a Wii FPS game that doesn't suck. Hell, last gen I bought Geist because I had only one other FPS game on my GC, TimeSplitters 2. Geist was ok for a GC game, but it was no Halo or Counterstrike.

Remorseful Wii devs will find little solace in bringing their projects to the HD systems. HD gamers demand a LOT more than what most Wii devs want to provide.



Damage control already???

Personally, I'm happy. If Suda believes that he can achieve success on other platforms, then all the power to him. I'll certainly buy NHM if we see it on the PS3 or 360.



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No need to worry now. We still have a while before Desperate Struggle is released and it'll still be a while before we hear anything on a part 3.




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sc94597 said:
Carl2291 said:
sc94597 said:
This could very well mean that he is talking about a console next generation. Especially if you look at the reason. They said they did all they can on the Wii, well they can't do much better on the other current generation consoles and in some ways it will be a downgrade(controls).

Sony remotes?

Like I said in my other post. How long do you think is left in this generation? They don't have time to wait for the "sony remote". Also why would they limit their install base with an ad-on? It seems much more intelligant to release the third No More Heroes next generation if the Wii is really limiting the experience, and focus on their other games in development, such as their announced multiplatform game.

PS remote is expected sometime next year, if im not mistaken.

Plus, this gen is touted to be the longest yet...



I think Suda is biting off more than he can chew here...

Despite Suda's internet fame and the underground popularity of his titles like "God's Hand," "Killer 7," and "No More Heroes," that is all that he is...and underground legend.

His games don't sell that well because, despite how interesting of a concept they are, they aren't made well at all.

Don't get me wrong; I believe they are good titles and I particularly LOVE No More Heroes, but even admit that there a few things "wrong" with the game that will never be accepted by HD owners and would not be solved unless you have lots and lots of money for production...

The games that are successful on HD consoles are all made by the "Big Boys" : EA, Activision, Rockstar, Bethesda, Sony, Microsoft, etc. You compare any of their games with Suda's, they will smoke him. And it is all because of the amount of money those companies are willing to spend to make a game that will satisfy the HD customers...Suda's other games didn't have to spend as much in order to make a profit and stay afloat.

I also hear that he is interested in bring the game to Natal. I say good luck...instead of being a day one purchase, I would have to take a "wait and see" approach on that one...



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bardicverse said:
dsister44 said:
Yeah, wouldn't surprise me. They said the only reason it was exclusive was because of the motion controller. Now since sony has it as well. I wouldn't be surprised if they made a game for sony

Just an observation, Sony still has to work out how the character will move around, as that was a big part of the game, lots of circular movements around enemies and whatnot

Sony's Wand has buttons and an analog stick iirc. Sony have apparently already sent the tech out so I think they've most likely got the wand where they want it as far as how it will play. There might be minor adjustments to the way it looks but nobody knows for sure.