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Munkeh111 said:
Squilliam said:

I don't care about trophies, I don't care about online multiplayer as I don't know anyone in my country with a PS3, I don't care about costumes and any improvements in the campaign and length just means I rent it for 3 days rather than overnight. I rent pretty much all of my games, its the rare game that I actually purchase. Don't take it personally, but thats the only criteria by which I would have purchased the game. No split screen = no continual playtime = no purchase.

@MAFKKA: "So Fallout 3, Call of Duty series, inFamous, MGS4, Assassins Creed, Uncharted.. etc is not worth buying?"

I rented every single one of those games. I didn't feel the need to play them again so no purchase. Though, I probably will get Infamous 2nd hand when its down to a little less than half price either new or used.

So basically, your criteria on buying a game is; does it have local co-op? Not the quality of the game

No, its this:

Will I play it again?

If no = no purchase.

If yes: will I play it more than once more?

if no: rent again if needed

if yes: do I value the experience highly?

if no: buy when low price

if yes: buy now.

The quality if the game doesn't matter, if I can play it once or twice and thats it I will consider renting it. Because $10 is cheaper than $120. Even if I value the game highly, it still doesn't mean that renting isn't my best bet.

 

 

 



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MAFKKA said:
@ Squilliam - What games do you actually own? Must be boring to only play RE5 24/7

Halo 3, Gears of War, Crackdown, worms, Forza 2, PGR3, Street fighter, Castle crashers

and for the PS3: Little big planet.



Tease.

Uncharted 1 didn't have it, but praised by most.

Uncharted 2, looking even more bad ass plus extra, still doesn't have it, bad?


my god, this has been a generation of complainers, that's all we do.



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perpride said:
dsister44 said:
MontanaHatchet said:
Isn't this becoming increasingly common? I imagine that if you want a good looking game, you won't have co-op of some sort or another. Yeah, it's a negative, but not much of one. Halo 3 is one of the leading games in the shooter genre that has splitscreen co-op, but it also has below average graphics.


I would rather have splitscreen then beautiful graphics

I completely disagree. Not because I'm a graphics whore, but because this is Uncharted. The way people in this thread are talking about how important co-op is you would think none of them have even played Uncharted. The game is meant to be a single player experience. As far as I know only certain parts/missions of Uncharted 2 are meant to be played in co-op, the rest is still just Nate. I will admit, I'm dissapointed that there will be no split-screen co-op, but if puting it would have meant visuals that were inferior to the first Uncharted then I completely understand where they are coming from.

It would only look worse than Uncharted during splitscreen play. Putting splitscreen in isn't suddenly going to make single player look worse.

So, if it's like WipEout HD, and they just reduce the framerate and visual quality during splitscreen play, so be it. At least then there is splitscreen play. WipEout HD didn't lend itself to it very well, since it's a game about travelling at speeds of 500 km/h along a narrow track (with great graphics and effects), but it was still functional, and while it wasn't as polished as single player, it worked.

I'm not saying the single player campaign should have co-op of any kind, that's ridiculous. It's Nate's adventure, he's usually alone. But with the co-op campaign which has three people playing anyway, why can't two of them (three is a bit much) be on the same system?



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Kantor said:
perpride said:
dsister44 said:
MontanaHatchet said:
Isn't this becoming increasingly common? I imagine that if you want a good looking game, you won't have co-op of some sort or another. Yeah, it's a negative, but not much of one. Halo 3 is one of the leading games in the shooter genre that has splitscreen co-op, but it also has below average graphics.


I would rather have splitscreen then beautiful graphics

I completely disagree. Not because I'm a graphics whore, but because this is Uncharted. The way people in this thread are talking about how important co-op is you would think none of them have even played Uncharted. The game is meant to be a single player experience. As far as I know only certain parts/missions of Uncharted 2 are meant to be played in co-op, the rest is still just Nate. I will admit, I'm dissapointed that there will be no split-screen co-op, but if puting it would have meant visuals that were inferior to the first Uncharted then I completely understand where they are coming from.

It would only look worse than Uncharted during splitscreen play. Putting splitscreen in isn't suddenly going to make single player look worse.

So, if it's like WipEout HD, and they just reduce the framerate and visual quality during splitscreen play, so be it. At least then there is splitscreen play. WipEout HD didn't lend itself to it very well, since it's a game about travelling at speeds of 500 km/h along a narrow track (with great graphics and effects), but it was still functional, and while it wasn't as polished as single player, it worked.

I'm not saying the single player campaign should have co-op of any kind, that's ridiculous. It's Nate's adventure, he's usually alone. But with the co-op campaign which has three people playing anyway, why can't two of them (three is a bit much) be on the same system?

Actually Kantor your wrong. The engine has to be designed differently. I'll explain. Halo 3 1 player has the same amount of onscreen enemies as 4 player splitscreen. Because it's a campaign coop. So all the set pieces etc are preset. So the engine has to be able to deal with 60 enemies onscreen with 4 splitscreen going on.

It's not as simple as taking out some texture res and dropping the resolution. They have design the whole engine to work properly. So that means less objects in singleplayer, less charatcer detail etc.

Dude Naughty Dog have already stated to have local COOP in Uncharted 2 they would have to take a hit in graphics. Your not gonna argue with Naughty Dog are you? If it only affected graphics for just the coop then their reason for not putting it in the game does not make sense. They arent putting it in due to the engine needing to be changed. See?!



IMO some games don't need co-op/multiplayer of any kind, way I see it, Uncharted fits into that category (that and any RPG)



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Ajescent said:
IMO some games don't need co-op/multiplayer of any kind, way I see it, Uncharted fits into that category (that and any RPG)

True, they don't need to have it. But, when done correctly it can make an already awesome game even better, like Secret of Mana. That being said, Uncharted is still one of my favourite shooting games recently.

@Squilliam - Given your criteria for purchasing a game, I'd recommend giving PixelJunk Mosters a try. Although, I'm unsure if there is a demo available.



Great... at least they wont need to sacrifice the looks of the game... IMO it was not needed or expected...



Wow. It looks like the anti-sony folks are really reaching to make anything seem negative. Of course they go for sony's biggest game for later this year. People should be grateful that they even wasted time with a multi-player and on-line co-op mode. As they are completely unnecessary but nice additions. I could careless if it has local co-op or none at all. It's all about the single player and no a downgrade in visuals is definitely not worth it. U2 will have a cinematic mode where you can record and watch your game and take screenshots. I'd much rather have that.