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I think reviews should be less biased and agree with me more often.



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megaman79 said:
1up gave Conduit 58? Wow

A C+ is "better than average"

That is not a 58.



Words Of Wisdom said:
I think reviews should be less biased and agree with me more often.


AGREED. NOW WHY DON'T OTHER PEOPLE THINK LIKE THAT?



Quiet Storm = Best Gatorade flavor EVER.

Samus Aran said:
C+, but that gets translated to 58% on metacritic somehow.

This shows one of the problems of trying to relate different scoring methods.

In school, letter grades use a generally 10-point scale (or less). So a C+ would be a high 70s -- in line with most of the lower-ended reviews of the game.

But the aggregation sites convert this using a 100-point standard where C=halfway=50.  That may or may not be the system being used by the reviewer. So something gets lost in translation.

 

EDIT -- Something must also be lost in translation. The review seemed incomplete. The graphic points almost sounded like "its not HD" and the single player like "it's not Modern Warfare."  I don't mind middling scores. I just like to have some thought shown.

 

Mike from Morgantown



      


I am Mario.


I like to jump around, and would lead a fairly serene and aimless existence if it weren't for my friends always getting into trouble. I love to help out, even when it puts me at risk. I seem to make friends with people who just can't stay out of trouble.

Wii Friend Code: 1624 6601 1126 1492

NNID: Mike_INTV

psrock said:
megaman79 said:
Ok i have a project for people here. Find me a review of a multi console release that scores LESS on PS360 because of controls.

We'll see if this is even possible and then we'll talk.

Tiger Woods 10.

 

So easy

 

Ghostbusters (on gamespot)

for once they got it right.



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dahuman said:
mike_intellivision said:
dahuman said:
This thread is some funny shit =D and I have to speak for Daemon for a sec here, there are people who don't like the Wii, and I can fully understand it, Daemon Hatfield is one of them, but that doesn't mean he doesn't like the good games on that system, good games will be good games. I don't always like what I see on the Wii myself, but that doesn't take my enjoyment away from good games on the system. it is only a problem when people think all Wii games are garbage simply because they don't like the system and ignore the good games on that particular console altogether. Haters are worse than Fanboys and are even lesser a real gamer, keep that in mind =P.

You are right that he has a right to his opinion.

But and does like good games.

But his opinion is that are no good games.

Which basically would seem to invalidate this argument.

 

Mike from Morgantown

go read his blog, I've never really felt his reviews were biased when he was on the Nintendo team, he does have some fav games on Wii.

I read his response. His defense sounds a lot like when someone says ... "I am not against X, I have friends who are X."  His posted game collection shows only three Wii games -- Zelda TP, Metal Slug Anthology, and Wii Sports.

 

But honestly, this statement I think is the clincher: "And the IGN Nintendo team is constantly calling the Wii and Nintendo out on everything that is wrong with the platform."

This leads to two questions.

1. Do they do this for the other platforms? I don't know, I am asking seriously for point of fact.  My feeling is they don't do it as much but I cannot say for any certainty since I don't own the other two platforms and don't follow the traffic surrounding them nearly as seriously.

2. Do they realize that it is selling the most because it is not the other two platforms. That what they do not like may be what the general public likes?

 

Mike from Morgantown




      


I am Mario.


I like to jump around, and would lead a fairly serene and aimless existence if it weren't for my friends always getting into trouble. I love to help out, even when it puts me at risk. I seem to make friends with people who just can't stay out of trouble.

Wii Friend Code: 1624 6601 1126 1492

NNID: Mike_INTV

Mike: IGN gives fair reviews and they tend to give games a higher score then other review sites for wii gamesor about the same as most. I don't think Matt hates the wii or Nintendo. However, he does hate Sonic lol. That sonic and the black knight review was soo funny.

My biggest complaint and the reason why I do not own a HD console yet is because ps3 and xbox360 games are 95% the same. I don't even get why fanboys of ps3 and xbox360 fight each other. I'm thinking of buying a cheap xbox360 though for like 150 euros? That's a good price for a console with a good game library. Every game will also have good graphics for me then because the wii doesn't shine in that department.



In my old high school (Ontario, Canada) C+ would translate to around a 68%.

Though, even as a Wii lover, I feel the lower scores for Wii games, in general, is warranted. Not because the graphics are worse than the PS360, but because, for the most part, developers do not put a ton of effort into the games. Sadly, sales figures where games like Carnival Games sell twice as much as Metroid Prime 3 encourage this. Which sucks, as when developers DO put effort in (No More Heroes, for instance), the games are incredibly fun. Despite this, I still find myself playing my Wii more than my PS3/360.

I was playing some PS2 recently, and that really shows off the lack of effort many developers put into Wii games. The best PS2 games, such as God of War 2 and MGS3 look almost as good as a weak 360 game. The Wii is around 3 times as powerful as a PS2, so it's sad the number of games that fail to even meet PS2 standards of excellence.

In short, the lack of effort by Wii developers sucks. I like good Wii games more than good 360/PS3 games (though I love those too.)



volrath50 said:

Not because the graphics are worse than the PS360, but because, for the most part, developers do not put a ton of effort into the games. Sadly, sales figures where games like Carnival Games sell twice as much as Metroid Prime 3 encourage this. Which sucks, as when developers DO put effort in (No More Heroes, for instance), the games are incredibly fun.

Seems like you're confusing "games that interest me" with "games developers put a ton of effort in."  They may be related but they're not the same.



Words Of Wisdom said:
volrath50 said:

Not because the graphics are worse than the PS360, but because, for the most part, developers do not put a ton of effort into the games. Sadly, sales figures where games like Carnival Games sell twice as much as Metroid Prime 3 encourage this. Which sucks, as when developers DO put effort in (No More Heroes, for instance), the games are incredibly fun.

Seems like you're confusing "games that interest me" with "games developers put a ton of effort in."  They may be related but they're not the same.

Good point. I suppose I have a hard time taking such games seriously, because of my own bias. I could say I go based on reviews, but it's not unreasonable that most reviewers would have similar bias.