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Tony_Parker said:
@crumas : no offense, but you can't compare a game like Oblivion to Final Fantasy... We need more western RPGs series before they can even compete with the JRPG series...

Mass effect is only one game until now, Elder Scrolls is mostly 2 (oblivion / morrowind), their combined sales and reputation put them really far away from the biggest JRPG series like Dragon Quest or Final Fantasy... In the future they may be able to compete for this title though. Right now they're just too young.

I didn't say that all the titles on the winning list were not relevant.  I specifically said that a lot of the titles on the list are surprising picks over games like Oblivion, such as Shin Megami Tensei, particularly considering how poorly they sold.  How can that title be #3 on this list when Oblivion sold almost 4 million copies and Morrowind sold almost 2 million copies, not even including the PC versions?  Below are the sales figures for the top three Shin Megami Tensei titles:

Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4  .58 m

Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner  .38 m

Shin Megami Tensei II  .37 m

 

Please explain to me how Shin Megami Tensei could be voted as the 3rd most popular RPG of all time with pathetic sales figures like that.  Again, this demonstrates a very strong JRPG bias from those who participated in the poll.  I'm not saying there is anything wrong with that, just that it's far outside what the average RPG gamer would have picked, and perhaps indicates that many of us on VGChartz are outside the mainstream in our gaming preferences.

Also, considering how "young" a series is, the first Elder Scrolls game, Elder Scrolls: Arena, was released for PC in 1994.  That was 15 years ago.

 

 

 



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@Crumas2

I said that a few pages ago. This voting is going for personal preferences, and not for RPG's that actually made history in the RPG genre. Elder Scrolls was one of the first RPG's to introduce a massive open world in the RPG genre, Diablo almost launched the MMORPG genre, along with Ultima, Dragon Quest is the Original JRPG (and almost all DQ are better than FF games, the exception being FFVI, FFVII and FFXII IMO), but people are just voting to the most popular/played at the moment. Right now, the only three RPG series that made an important contribution to the genre that are still standing are FF (which put JRPG in the mainstream), Shin Megami Tensei (launched the whole RPG/Dating sims genre, which was only popular in japan and mainly in Dating sims/hentai games) and Fire Emblem (Launched the SRPG sub-genre).

I just don't agree with your whole sales evaluation, sales doesn't equal quality in games. The first ES games didn't sell that much, just because Morrowind and Oblivion sold a few million that doesn't automatically put it as better games than SMT or any other game. ES is a great series because it was the first which offered you an open world and the ability to be almost everything that you wanted.

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@crumas 2

Maybe if you go out on the street and ask random people you will get this list to be more accurate compared to the individual sales.
But this is a website filled with fanatics, people can vote as much as they like, and here we can spread personal opinions and obliterate the boring masses with our votes.



weaveworld said:
@crumas 2

Maybe if you go out on the street and ask random people you will get this list to be more accurate compared to the individual sales.
But this is a website filled with fanatics, people can vote as much as they like, and here we can spread personal opinions and obliterate the boring masses with our votes.

LOL!  No, doubt.

I feel sorry, however, for someone who could play Oblivion and not get completely lost in the beauty and wonder of the world they created.  Mass Effect was neat, but I wouldn't consider it that groundbreaking of a title, except on a number of technical levels.

If you're *really* interested in the greatest RPG of all time, then it would be Faery Tale Adventure that was released on the Amiga, but I doubt players now-adays would even "get" the beauty of it.

 



lestatdark said:

@Crumas2

I said that a few pages ago. This voting is going for personal preferences, and not for RPG's that actually made history in the RPG genre. Elder Scrolls was one of the first RPG's to introduce a massive open world in the RPG genre, Diablo almost launched the MMORPG genre, along with Ultima, Dragon Quest is the Original JRPG (and almost all DQ are better than FF games, the exception being FFVI, FFVII and FFXII IMO), but people are just voting to the most popular/played at the moment. Right now, the only three RPG series that made an important contribution to the genre that are still standing are FF (which put JRPG in the mainstream), Shin Megami Tensei (launched the whole RPG/Dating sims genre, which was only popular in japan and mainly in Dating sims/hentai games) and Fire Emblem (Launched the SRPG sub-genre).

I just don't agree with your whole sales evaluation, sales doesn't equal quality in games. The first ES games didn't sell that much, just because Morrowind and Oblivion sold a few million that doesn't automatically put it as better games than SMT or any other game. ES is a great series because it was the first which offered you an open world and the ability to be almost everything that you wanted.

Fire Emblem +

Suikoden -

I agree that sales should never be a deciding factor, but ranking a tightly Japanese-focused title that sold to a relatively small number of RPG players doesn't make any sense.  It probably didn't have as much impact on the genre as you might want to believe.

As far as open world environment, there were titles in the 80's that broke that ground.



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+ Suikoden
- Shadow Hearts




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Mass Effect lol


on more serious note:

-any forgotten realm's games such as:
Baldurs Gate
Ice WInd dale
Neverwinter Nights

-Fallout 1&2