that doesn't mean they go through the same QA process =P. one thing to factor in also is the obvious design decisions on these machines, one might just be more flawed than the other.

Nintendo does make some reliable systems. My NES SNES N64, and gameboy(the original) all are capable of playing games perfectly. My ps2 and ps3 are run great too though, I guess I've just had luck with systems.

I can understand that with the ps2, but my ps1 still works and my ps3 too(my ps2 actually works but I understand that it failed a lot), and the ps3 fail rate hasnt been as hight to the point to compare it with the xbox360, more like it has a similar one with the wii.

Well if Nintendo don't put more money into build quality then they are just better at it.  To my knowledge they only stopped offering a lifetime warranty with their systems when they introduced the Gamecube, due to the optical drive (or it may have been in the N64 era) so they do have a long history of building very reliable hardware or at the least standing by their manufacturing standards better than most companies.

Nevertheless low power consumption was an active part of the Wii's design process and not something that happened accidentally by using older technology than the conpetition, as some people have suggested. As people have noted heat is obviously a major factor contributing to product failure.

Here is a comparison of the power consumption of home consoles if you are interested.

http://www.sust-it.net/energy_saving.php?id=71

Ah... well that is easily explainable.

It is not neccesarily more powerful tech, but more that discs took over cartridges.... more moving parts means more failure. I don't know how Nintendo got around it with the GameCube though as that thing was still incredibly reliable. Perhaps it was the smaller discs that are easier for the track of the laser.

Although even then N64 is probably still more reliable.

I haven't read most of the thread so i don't know if this has been mentioned but the PS3 that are messing up are the 60 gig ones. I haven't heard of the others failing that badly. The 60gigs are older and not made anymore so that could be why. And i have a 60 gig i hope it keeps working, knock on wood.

The blue is a valid reason why they could be failing more.... but until more time passes we won't know if similar things will happen to other models when they get as old as the 60G is now.

The purple makes no sense.... they are not made anymore true, but that shouldn't affect how they were made 2 years ago, so unless 60G PS3s are concious entities that are commiting suicide because they are not being made anymore, it isn't a valid reason as to why they are breaking more than other models.

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My suspicion is that 60G originals, with all the acctutriments will probably run a good bit hotter than newer models, so that will affect the life of the parts inside. So I suggest you keep it well ventilated, shaded, and don't play long hours of gaming on those heatwave days, which should lower the chances of anything happening to it.

It's already been proven that the fail rate of the PS3 and Wii are less than 1%. 360 is another story, but if you want to argue that the Wii fails .56% of the time, and the PS3 fails .60%, then you are a lost soul

I've sent my Wii in twice for repairs, bought it at launch. My PS3 has yet to bust or have something go wrong with it and it's an 80 gig with BC. Maybe I've just been lucky with my PS3(or maybe because it's not a launch console) or it's because my Wii was a launch console.

I was just meaning that you can't buy them so you won't have to worry if your 60G will give out.

I always blow my PS3... oh wait that doesn't sound right... anyways i don't play it that much, (Right now) i will be tomorrow though because of DW6: Empires YAY. But when i played PS2 games on it, after a while it started working harder so i wouldn't play it much longer.

Edit: Lol about the suicide thing. Maybe i should have bought another 60G to keep it company. My brother has one, if it ever gets lonely i could just take it to his house lol