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Words Of Wisdom said:
I don't feel the least bit sad about this.

They're incompetent. They're bad at what they do. Their inability to adequately promote games is not just damaging them (boo hoo), it's also damaging talented developers who make great games that should be promoted and available to far more gamers than they are.

If Marvelous doesn't step up and get their act together then I hope the good developers like K2 and Image Epoch ditch them and jump over to a publisher that can actually do its job.

I agree with this. If they admit they did a shit job at promoting them then we know they got almost nothing. How the hell are people going to buy games that are not promoted? Do they think everyone in the world goes and reads reviews online? The games they made are good, but no matter how good a product is, with no advertising it will do shitty.



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Wii owners respond to advertising, but they will no way buy a game they don't know what it is

marketing is horrible btw, i live in Europe and i had no idea that this game was out and even if i knew, when watching at the store would just skip it, i mean nobody will buy random games for Wii since the risk of shovelware is high and the name/box art really feels like it

they just need to promote things, let people know what that is, not just put it there and expect them to buy it



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I think distribution is the key word here. I want many games on the list, i just haven't actually really ever seen any of them for sale.



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Ah yes, they did publish all those games. And all of them did not sell very well.

But then, most of their games dont sell well, except for some DS games....



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If anyone is interested:

http://vgchartz.com/games/index.php?&results=50&name=&console=&keyword=&publisher=206&genre=&order=Sales&boxart=Both&showdeleted=&region=Japan&alphasort=



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I think Marvelous expected most of these games to do better outside of Japan anyway; particularly the developers of Arc Rise Fantasia.  I remember reading that Imageepoch wasn't expecting much of the game's Japanese sales, but expected for a bigger audience stateside.  That game has yet to be released here in America, but I expect it to do far better here, and probably gain the same audience as, say, Tales of Symphonia, since that game was arguably more popular here than in Japan.

Muramasa may be a tougher sell, because it IS heavily steeped in Japanese culture.  It depends on how well Invitation markets it.  Still, there have been a growing appreciating fanbase for the return of 2D scrollers, as Wario Land Shake It proved, so we'll have to see.

Rune Factory Frontier would have been a hard sell either way because it is a very, very niche title.

The same thing may be true with Little King's Story.

In short, Marvelous needs to get better marketing skills for its Japanese releases, but hopefully stateside releases for their unreleased titles will fare better.  No More Heroes got lucky enough to get a sequel.

 

 

On an off-topic note, what I find strange is that, while No More Heroes didn't sell much in Japan, it still got a full soundtrack release.  Muramasa and especially Arc Rise Fantasia have yet to receive such a treatment.  On the flipside, Fragile got one four months AFTER its Japanese release, so who knows?  It could happen.



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If anyone is interested:

http://vgchartz.com/games/index.php?&results=50&name=&console=&keyword=&publisher=206&genre=&order=Sales&boxart=Both&showdeleted=&region=Japan&alphasort=

i cried after seeing these numbers.



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They should port games to PS2 for cheap and make some money.



Ari_Gold said:
They should port games to PS2 for cheap and make some money.

The PS2 is pretty much dead in Japan. It would probably be a waste.




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Not only are those titles niche, they are even more niche going from PS2 which had the 'hardcore' audience to Wii which is predominately casual, people not looking for long term play experiences like Rune Factory and Little King Story. Nor are the HD consoles even a consideration because the niche nature of the games could never recoop HD development costs.

DS or decreasingly PS2 are the only viable platforms I think for those types of games. Or Wiiware/PSN/XBL