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Staude on 15 June 2009
monlosez said:
SHMUPGurus said:

@ monlosez: I don't want to sound "fanboyish" or anything, but where do those numbers come from?

Another question, is this comparison based on the newest E3 trailer for GT5 (I don't remember if there was one)?

 

All these numbers are coming from the developers themselves. Forza 2= 100,000, PGR4= 100,000, GT4= 4,000, GT5:P= 200,000, Forza 3= 1,000,000. Forza 3 is huge improvement in graphics comparing to Forza 2.

This is the E3 2009 trailer.

Forza 2

Forza 3

wow are you saying the first one is a 100k polygons ?.. Lol that's terrible polygon optimisation.

 

I can make a box.. square with 480k polygons.. but it'll still be a box.

That doesn't make it look better than kratos for instance, from god of war with 20k polygons.

 

also..

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Sardauk on 15 June 2009

What is a trailer supposed to prove ?



 

Evan Wells (Uncharted 2): I think the differences that you see between any two games has much more to do with the developer than whether it’s on the Xbox or PS3.

Staude on 15 June 2009
selnor said:
--OkeyDokey-- said:
@ ironman

CGI in Prologue? I don't think so.

It's funny. When this GT5 trailer was first shown all the Sony fanboys were like "OMG, it looks better than Forza 3!" and the Microsoft fanboys were all like "No way, that's CGI!".

Then it was proven to be in-game and the Sony fanboys were like "Ha, in your face!" and all the the Microsoft fanboys were like "Forza 3 still looks better!"

lol :P

LOL. I fell off my chair. I for one all along said it was ingame TRAILER of GT5. Trailer being the operative word. Grid's first trailer used in game engine, even had cockpit in the traielr. But the end actual gameplay was significantly worse. It's because scripted trailers like GT5 use heavy added effects. I said all along that people should wait for ACTUAL gameplay in cockpit mode for GT5 before doing what I did with GRID.

Currently F3 beats GT5P, as thats the only gameplay we have of GT on PS3.

Actually what you really said was that parts of it were in engine and parts were cgi.



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ironman on 15 June 2009
--OkeyDokey-- said:
@ ironman

CGI in Prologue? I don't think so.

It's funny. When this GT5 trailer was first shown all the Sony fanboys were like "OMG, it looks better than Forza 3!" and the Microsoft fanboys were all like "No way, that's CGI!".

Then it was proven to be in-game and the Sony fanboys were like "Ha, in your face!" and all the the Microsoft fanboys were like "Forza 3 still looks better!"

lol :P

Whoa! Down boy! I didn't say one looked better that the other. I merely stated we should wait till we get screenshots of both games before saying one's graphics are better than another's. Also, I did not notice that those were Prologue shots. Here's what it really boils down to, will anybody except hard core fanboys really notice any huge differance in graphics quality. I highly doubt it. Rather, they will enjoy playing the game that works on the console(s) they own. You can't really compair the games if you can't play them both...without your goggles on. 



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selnor on 15 June 2009

From 50 secs onward the graphics look like real life. Except for the tutoring line of course. I couldn't find a GT5P video of the same track to match it.

 



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ironman on 15 June 2009

I can't use that vid to compare anything, its standard def on a comp screen.



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AE86 on 15 June 2009
selnor said:

From 50 secs onward the graphics look like real life. Except for the tutoring line of course. I couldn't find a GT5P video of the same track to match it.

 

 

I don't think anyone could mistake that for real life.



selnor on 15 June 2009
Staude said:
selnor said:
--OkeyDokey-- said:
@ ironman

CGI in Prologue? I don't think so.

It's funny. When this GT5 trailer was first shown all the Sony fanboys were like "OMG, it looks better than Forza 3!" and the Microsoft fanboys were all like "No way, that's CGI!".

Then it was proven to be in-game and the Sony fanboys were like "Ha, in your face!" and all the the Microsoft fanboys were like "Forza 3 still looks better!"

lol :P

LOL. I fell off my chair. I for one all along said it was ingame TRAILER of GT5. Trailer being the operative word. Grid's first trailer used in game engine, even had cockpit in the traielr. But the end actual gameplay was significantly worse. It's because scripted trailers like GT5 use heavy added effects. I said all along that people should wait for ACTUAL gameplay in cockpit mode for GT5 before doing what I did with GRID.

Currently F3 beats GT5P, as thats the only gameplay we have of GT on PS3.

Actually what you really said was that parts of it were in engine and parts were cgi.

Actually yes, but thats common knowledge. It's pretty obvious when the quality changes in the graphis from CGI beginning. The first part of the Trailer will be part of the GT5 into when you load up the game. Same way other GT's had CGI at the beginning. Yes I own them so I know.

Still my point is highly valid. People should know by know game engine trailers never mean anyhting for the graphics.



ironman on 15 June 2009
AE86 said:
selnor said:

From 50 secs onward the graphics look like real life. Except for the tutoring line of course. I couldn't find a GT5P video of the same track to match it.

 

 

I don't think anyone could mistake that for real life.

This, of course, goes back to my last post.



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yo_john117 on 15 June 2009
ironman said:
--OkeyDokey-- said:
@ ironman

CGI in Prologue? I don't think so.

It's funny. When this GT5 trailer was first shown all the Sony fanboys were like "OMG, it looks better than Forza 3!" and the Microsoft fanboys were all like "No way, that's CGI!".

Then it was proven to be in-game and the Sony fanboys were like "Ha, in your face!" and all the the Microsoft fanboys were like "Forza 3 still looks better!"

lol :P

Whoa! Down boy! I didn't say one looked better that the other. I merely stated we should wait till we get screenshots of both games before saying one's graphics are better than another's. Also, I did not notice that those were Prologue shots. Here's what it really boils down to, will anybody except hard core fanboys really notice any huge differance in graphics quality. I highly doubt it. Rather, they will enjoy playing the game that works on the console(s) they own. You can't really compair the games if you can't play them both...without your goggles on. 

The GT pic was a ingame Gran Turismo Prologue pic, which has already been out for more than a year.