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Im pretty sure it costs around $220-$240 to make a PSP Go. I think Sony is selling it at this high of a price point so that they can start profiting off of it, and then when it gets close to winter sell it for $199 to sell tons of units.



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This thread is filled with so much fail on either side. Someone needs to bookmark it, so they can then use it to fuel more flaimbait threads.

DO IT! DO IT NOW!

On Topic? The PSP GO is going to sell amazingly well, even at its price.

K, Im out.



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It's not like this is Sony's first foray into DD. They have servers already to hold the video, and game content from PSN. Why does everyone assume that this is such a big cost for them when they have been talking about adding content to PSN forever. This is simply a part of that.



yeah if i got one it wouldn't be the go thing...that has fail written on it



 

theprof00 said:
UMD is a cost they have always dealt with.

Servers and bandwidth are a completely separate, completely new cost. Whereas UMD took a dollar or so out of the profit on every game sold, servers and bandwidth and associated fees are an added cost separate of sales. Meaning, say nobody buys pspgo. They still had to pay for the servers and the bandwidth, which are a much higher price upfront. The silver lining is that, over time the cost spreads out and will not need to be recouped any longer. That equals price drop.

I don't know how much bluetooth is, but I'd guess about 1-2 dollars per console.

Since you seem to know almost nothing about consumer demand, I'll tell you how that works.
You take a product, product A. You ask several thousand people how much they would pay for product A. You track how many would buy at each price in increments of, say, 10$. You then end up with a distribution graph. (similar to a bell curve that you may be familiar with). You then use a formula which factors in costs per item and demand (how many people at each price bracket) and you find roughly how many and what your net profit would be at each price level.

Naturally you will price the item at one that makes the most profit. At higher price, less people will buy, which may sound like it will recoup because it's fewer people spending the higher price, but keep in mind the bell curve I mentioned earlier. Pricing something too high reduces overall income.
When people like you think Sony is retarded for charging so much for their products, you completely fail to take into account the scientifically proven methods of establishing price based on what a consumer themself values the product to be.

Not only that, but consoles are generally a razor blade model where each console sells ~8-10 games over it's lifetime. The money made on the games greatly outweighs the profit coming in from the console itself. Therefore there is also a tendency on the consumer demand formula (for videogame consoles) to underprice.

I don't think you are going to take anything away from this because it seems you have a pretty good anti-pspgo attitude already formed, based on what I read in your post:

You dislike digital distribution
you dislike the battery life
you dislike sony (and actively misrepresent their strategy apparently)
you dislike the pspgo design, and think it is iffy
you think the pspgo is halfassed in general.

To really change your mind, I would have to address these other complaints of yours, of which, only the point on digital distribution is debateable. The battery life is ok to complain about I guess, if it weren't for the fact that all PSPs have had the same battery life.

DD is going to be a hard sell because you either believe in it or you don't. All I can say is that every tech company is poised toward DD and has been successful on things such as PSN, Steam, MS games for Windows, and several other venues.

The other 3 things are your opinion, so I'm not going to bother.
You are entitled to think that it is a bad decision to price the pspgo at 250$, but if you are going to be actively vocal about hating on something, I'm going to tell you you're wrong.

NO , you dont understand, am not complaining on any of the innovations, am complaning on the intentions of the company, that has destroyed a beloved brand just because they are greedy or are terrible at making desissions, why? because there is no real innnovation at all, everything the GO can do the 3000 can do it technicaly, the only real limitation the 3000 has is mechanical and it is in truth something that make the GO cheaper. So instead of trying to clean their name after getting their butt kicked by nintendo who released a afortable console and made the pricy PS3 look like it was giving the finger to MOST PS2, they come and show that they will make consumer pay for their mistakes.



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@radha
My point was simply that maybe the pspgo isn't the gravy train for Sony that everyone is saying it is. I listed numerous factors as to why this might cost what it does. I assume there will be a price drop in the near future, maybe 8 months down the line or so, but this is arguably the most advanced of it's kind on the market.
Has really sweet graphics, larger games (in terms of content and space), is extremely light, small, will have apps like the Iphone for all kinds of things, and it's 100% digital.

We keep comparing this new psp to the ds, but we really shouldn't be. DS isn't much of a competitor to PSP because the people who play them simply have different tastes for the most part. The real threat, to both the DS and the PSP, is the Ipod touch/phone.

This pspgo will do nearly everything the iPod can do, but will be more gamer-centric. The job of this psp is to give the ipod a hard time in crossing into the game market. If we are going to talk about the DS at all, we should note that the Ipod touch currently does everything the ds does, and a lot more (except (hard)core gaming). This pspgo is in a much better position don't you think?



oint theprof00 said:
@radha
My point was simply that maybe the pspgo isn't the gravy train for Sony that everyone is saying it is. I listed numerous factors as to why this might cost what it does. I assume there will be a price drop in the near future, maybe 8 months down the line or so, but this is arguably the most advanced of it's kind on the market.
Has really sweet graphics, larger games (in terms of content and space), is extremely light, small, will have apps like the Iphone for all kinds of things, and it's 100% digital.

We keep comparing this new psp to the ds, but we really shouldn't be. DS isn't much of a competitor to PSP because the people who play them simply have different tastes for the most part. The real threat, to both the DS and the PSP, is the Ipod touch/phone.

This pspgo will do nearly everything the iPod can do, but will be more gamer-centric. The job of this psp is to give the ipod a hard time in crossing into the game market. If we are going to talk about the DS at all, we should note that the Ipod touch currently does everything the ds does, and a lot more (except (hard)core gaming). This pspgo is in a much better position don't you think?


agree, but from a consumer point of view, do you really se this as a media device or as a handheld, beacause as long as itsseenas a handheld by the general population it will not compete with the ipod, which makes it compete to the DS.

 

But i have never metioned the DS because the biggest competition for the go is not DS/iphone/ipod touch is the PSP 3000, beacase i has access to all the digital content and is US$80 less, you see why i say it will fail? because the PSP GO cant compete with the 3000 is has the same features and will also have the apps, so why will anyone buy the PSP GO other than tech savys? conclusion, the price is a terrible desicion if the PSP 3000 is not taken out of the market



dd if = /dev/brain | tail -f | grep games | nc -lnvvp 80

Hey Listen!

https://archive.org/details/kohina_radio_music_collection

Units needed to cost the same as PSP 3000, games should be cheaper, Sony should offer UMD trade-ins and screen shouldn't have been made smaller.

All signs points towards a massive flop, and I really hope that holds true.



Fuck you Sony. Have you not learned with the reception the PS3's price got?



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PSP Go would be awsome if games were a lot cheaper, but they're not. With physical copies you can get really cheap used games, you can trade in, share games with friends, have backups and so on. They are infenitly better than DD versions. I'm not paying nearly 100 dollars for something inferior.



 

I blame Wii Fit...+!!!