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what kind of a weird twisted kind of logic is that!



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Darth it's called long term thinking.

Republic, then your issue is with the developer. I would get the quote but I'm on my PS3.



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dib8rman said:
Darth it's called long term thinking.

Republic, then your issue is with the developer. I would get the quote but I'm on my PS3.

Probably, but by using it the way he does, Malstrom has implied that he agrees with it.  He should explain why.



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Maltsorm & long-term thinking

LOL

Malstorm & "thinking" in 1 sentence is an insult to the word "thinking"



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darthdevidem01 said:
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Maltsorm & long-term thinking

LOL

Malstorm & "thinking" in 1 sentence is an insult to the word "thinking"

Malstrom has predicted more things correctly this generation than any other analyst that I know.  Could you point me in the direction of a better one?



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& tell me what malstorm has predicted correctly......I mean show me some clear concise predictions from him, not one of his weird rants that can be interpreted in 100's of different ways



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Malstrom seems to feel that the 3d Mario series are not true sequels to the 2d games, because of the shift in gameplay mechanics; that they simply borrow the franchise elements, like Mario, but are fundamentally different games.

I think that Nintendo's release of a separate line of 2d games, like NSMB Wii, is basically Nintendo agreeing with Malstrom on this point.

Malstrom thinks it's a problem for Nintendo to have not properly followed up on, say, Super Mario World till now. And maybe he's right--maybe Nintendo should've kept up with 2d Mario games all the way through--but I think he's wrong to take it out on a game like Galaxy.

Galaxy (and Mario 64, Sunshine) may truly be different from the original line, and it may be less accessible to the non-gamer, but that doesn't make it a bad game at all.

Now that we finally have two games coming up, one 2d and one 3d, it should make everybody happy, Malstrom included. Yes?



I guess 1 million wasn't enough for Malstrom? This is crazy.



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I think I can agree with him to some extent.

noname2200 made a great work in explaining a (possible) reasoning behind Malstroms statement, I don't think I have much to add. I'll write my thoughts down anyway though.

First of all, I think it would be wrong to blame the game; I haven't heard a single person saying that she didn't like the game, and I think the game is designed in a genuine way to give fun not only to longtime-fans and hardcores, but also to casuals that have started playing with the Wii.

The game was intended to be your typical "bridge game". A game that is really pick up and play, but offers a lot more depth than Wii Sports and the likes. A game that trains your skill and makes you ready for other challenges.


I think that was the intention behind Galaxy, and I think these goals were reached.

However, the mass market didn't jump on the bandwaggon. For some reason Galaxy failed to get these people playing that would need such a bridge to traditional games. I guess Nintendo themselves are struggling to find a reason for this. I don't know about advertisement, but here I haven't seen much. Failing to deliver the nostalgic factor like 2D marios could be another reason, and the people just don't want to play such games anymore could also be a reason, a fearful one though.


Of course one can't say that the Wii's bad recent performance in Japan is to blame on Galaxy, especially since the Wii was selling great during Galaxy's launch time and the following year. Still, Galaxy was one key title that failed to do its job done. Luckily enough, Mario Kart on the other hand could do it, so only one out of two was a failure.

This was more or less the same as noname2200 has said, although I think I couldn't write it down as good as he did.


Now let me add something else.
As many have pointed out, it is somehow crazy to call Galaxy a failure with sales of eight million, probably going up to nine million until everything is said and done. This is why we shouldn't fear to much about Nintendo abandoning the hardcore and stuff.

Originally, Nintendo tried to unify its fans with the help of bridge games. For that, some classic franchises have recently seen installments which were a bit dumped down; I'm especially thinking about Zelda: Phantom Hourglass now, since Mario Galaxy wasn't really dumped down, but just created in a way different audiences could enjoy it.

However, the numbers are showing now that the new audience isn't buying into these existing franchises. Most games have sold about the same amount as other games in the franchise.

So at this E3, Nintendo took a different approach. Instead of showing games for everybody, they were showing games for new gamers and old ones, which leads to a bigger amount of games overall.
This is definitely a good thing for gamers, while it is only the second best thing for Nintendo. Still, it doesn't need much thinking about making a sequel to an eight-million seller, so rest assured that also the 3D Mario's will be coming in the future.



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Darth for one the Iwata quote today about him expecting motion controls last year, and Malstrom talking (BEFORE E3 2008 ) about Nintendo moving into asymetrical competition. It's not my fault if you misinterpret the obvious but I still provided a recent panning out of a prediction he made in early 08.Maybe late 07.



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