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They must have been paid by sony in chocolate coins seeing as sony don't have proper money at the moment lol......



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Smashed said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:

A. They gave them credit for the PSP stuff, this is "Sony won" not the "PS3 won"

B. They directly gave them credit for games that weren't even shown. They even admit that.

Fallacious.

Figures you'd post something like that.

Whatever, ontopic, good article.

If by that you mean that what I posted was 100 percent accurate, then yes, yes it was.

As far as the Sony conference, here is what the media thought:

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=75790&page=1

The Sony conference was great. The best stuff was for the PSP, and in all honesty, giving Sony the crown is misleading. Most people who hear "Sony won E3" are going to think of the PS3, and not the PSP.

Anyway, I'm not here to bring up "Who won E3" but rather to comment on this particular article. Don't flame me for it.



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ZenfoldorVGI said:

A. They gave them credit for the PSP stuff, this is "Sony won" not the "PS3 won"

B. They directly gave them credit for games that weren't even shown. They even admit that.

Fallacious.

I don't see the article or OP claiming that the PS3 won, rather than Sony.

To be honest though, it's absolutely irrelevant. PS3 and PSP both contributed to Sony winning E3 in Joystiq's eyes.

Stop being a nuisance.



Yeah, this "article" reads like a blog entry, and does not link back to Joystiq. I RSS Joystiq, so if they actually declared the winner to be the PS3, I would have seen the article by now either on my phone or on my feed reader.




ZenfoldorVGI said:
JEDE3 said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:

A. They gave them credit for the PSP stuff, this is "Sony won" not the "PS3 won"

B. They directly gave them credit for games that weren't even shown. They even admit that.

Fallacious.


Who ever ever ever ever said PS3 won? Everyone who thinks it wasn't MS doesn't refer to Sony's confrence as Ps3.

judging by your post history though....

A. Bringing my post history into this is getting a little personal isn't it? Why don't we stick to the argument at hand.

B. NOBODY ever said the PS3 won. It's either "The 360 won" or "Sony won" Without the PSP stuff, the Sony conference was relatively shallow.

Anymore questions?

I was fair minded in my posts on this thread. I don't understand why you took offense.

My two points are absolutely correct. Read the article.

well they could of showed off more ps3 games but they need to balance it out between ps3 and psp.



 

 

 

 

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lilwingman said:
I think the most important thing to remember here is that the general consensus is pretty evenly split between a Sony or Microsoft win.

HD gaming ftw.

I agree. Fall 2009-2010 is going to be an awesome time for HD Gamers: Bayonetta, Splinter Cell: Conviction, Modern Warfare 2, Forza 3, Uncharted 2, Demon's Souls, Halo ODST and much more. I may have to get a summer job.



ZenfoldorVGI said:
Smashed said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:

A. They gave them credit for the PSP stuff, this is "Sony won" not the "PS3 won"

B. They directly gave them credit for games that weren't even shown. They even admit that.

Fallacious.

Figures you'd post something like that.

Whatever, ontopic, good article.

If by that you mean that what I posted was 100 percent accurate, then yes, yes it was.

As far as the Sony conference, here is what the media thought:

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=75790&page=1

The Sony conference was great. The best stuff was for the PSP, and in all honesty, giving Sony the crown is misleading. Most people who hear "Sony won E3" are going to think of the PS3, and not the PSP.

Anyway, I'm not here to bring up "Who won E3" but rather to comment on this particular article. Don't flame me for it.

lol dude seriously. Fail

 

 

No it's not misleading saying sony got the crown when they do have multiple platforms. I think most people think of the ps2,psp and the ps3 when they think sony :p And you can't prove otherwise.



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Skittles said:
misterd said:
1. The link isn't to Joystiq - its to a Sony gaming site. Am I missing something?

2. It is legitimate to say Sony "won". It is not legitimate for a supposedly professional gaming site to come to that conclusion completely while ignoring the goods delivered (or not) by the company that a) is kicking Sony's ass in the home console market, b) is kicking Sony's ass in the hand held market, and c) Sony is desperately trying to copy with its glowing sex toys.


So nintendo invented motion controls now?

Don't be a dick. I never said that, and you know it.

The tools of warfare matter less than how they are implemented. At the start of this generation, there was no technology available to Nintendo that was not also available to Sony and Microsoft. Nintendo chose to ignore HD. Sony and Microsoft chose to ignore motion controls.

Nintendo's use of  motion control, their strategy to build games around it and blow the gaming market wide open, is what MS and Sony are desperate to copy now (and what Sony pitifully tried to copy with its sixaxis controller earlier).

 



misterd said:
Skittles said:
misterd said:
1. The link isn't to Joystiq - its to a Sony gaming site. Am I missing something?

2. It is legitimate to say Sony "won". It is not legitimate for a supposedly professional gaming site to come to that conclusion completely while ignoring the goods delivered (or not) by the company that a) is kicking Sony's ass in the home console market, b) is kicking Sony's ass in the hand held market, and c) Sony is desperately trying to copy with its glowing sex toys.


So nintendo invented motion controls now?

Don't be a dick. I never said that, and you know it.

The tools of warfare matter less than how they are implemented. At the start of this generation, there was no technology available to Nintendo that was not also available to Sony and Microsoft. Nintendo chose to ignore HD. Sony and Microsoft chose to ignore motion controls.

Nintendo's use of  motion control, their strategy to build games around it and blow the gaming market wide open, is what MS and Sony are desperate to copy now (and what Sony pitifully tried to copy with its sixaxis controller earlier).

 

Not sure about you but I would much rather see a console that can deliver top quality graphics in stunning 1080P HD, superb media and online features which can easily add motion controls at a later date, both ps3 and 360 are now doing this,

The Wii's advantage is motion controls, they don't have the graphics power or media/online features to fall back on when all the consoles come out with motion controls, this will be a disaster for the Wii as it's ONLY advantage (motion controls) will no longer matter, the wii has nothing else to offer, the hd consoles will have motion control games that actually look amazing, something never ever possible on the wii, can you imagine how much a game like wii sports would sell on the HD consoles that looked stunning and relistic? millions, this is all it would take for the hd consoles to get into full swing on the motion control front,

 

Tell me honestly, do you think the Wii would be where it is now without the motion controls? of course not, it would have failed just like the gamecube, the ps3/360 are in a very good place right now, if they pull the motion controls off right the wii will be in a lot of trouble and both hd consoles could easily catch up (maybe even pass) the wii, noone knows how the rest of this generation will pan out, we're only half way through and the wii is already on it's limits whilst also seeing falling sales (still high though but for how long?)......