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http://www.edge-online.com/features/impressions-project-natal-ricochet

Impression on Project Natel from EDGE Magazine

 

"Ricochet itself, a simple 3D physics-enabled block-breaking game that reminds of the Dreamcast’s Cosmic Smash, is an effective demonstration of some of Project Natal’s capabilities. That said, our initial difficulties betray the separation that still remains between player and game. It’s hard to sense where the ball would exist in the real world, making it a challenge to reach out into real space in order to hit a virtual one. Moreover, once we manage to get it bouncing around, our reactions tend to lag a split second after the ball’s out of our reach."

 

They seems quite sincere and enthusiastic... still the fear of "You are in the movies" is not far away...



 

Evan Wells (Uncharted 2): I think the differences that you see between any two games has much more to do with the developer than whether it’s on the Xbox or PS3.

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Lets put the whole article on there:

http://www.edge-online.com/features/impressions-project-natal-ricochet

If there was something that kept our heart from leaping during Microsoft’s admittedly impressive (lifestyle video aside) onstage unveiling of Project Natal, it was our last experience with a camera-enabled Microsoft game, the limp You’re In The Movies.

We mention our fears during our chat with Microsoft’s Don Mattrick, and he promises that the system isn’t too good to be true before literally pulling us into a nearby meeting room to take part in a few games of Project Natal’s Ricochet prototype with the project’s creative director, Kudo Tsunoda.
   
On walking into the room, it’s immediately obvious that the system picks up Tsunoda’s body movements accurately with its stock but even lighting. And, challenged by Mattrick, Tsunoda dims the lights to the level of a dark but not pitch-black room, and returns to playing Ricochet with no drop in precision.

A topic only touched upon during Microsoft’s press briefing, Tsunoda explains that this was possible due to the way in which Project Natal analyses your body to create your “skeleton” which it can then accurately follow, even if your arm or leg moves out of the camera’s view. The software can predict the placement of the limb based on the positioning of the rest of the skeleton.

Of course, the proof is in the playing, and it isn’t until we step into the camera’s view that it starts to make sense. On beginning, the system takes 2-3 seconds to read your body shape, and we see our avatar readjusting its height, since we’re several inches shorter than Tsunoda. And then, as much as this might sound like hyperbole, every single movement, however small, Natal picks up, from a scratch of the nose to a small hop forward or backwards.

Ricochet itself, a simple 3D physics-enabled block-breaking game that reminds of the Dreamcast’s Cosmic Smash, is an effective demonstration of some of Project Natal’s capabilities. That said, our initial difficulties betray the separation that still remains between player and game. It’s hard to sense where the ball would exist in the real world, making it a challenge to reach out into real space in order to hit a virtual one. Moreover, once we manage to get it bouncing around, our reactions tend to lag a split second after the ball’s out of our reach.

So, while we have no qualms in stating that Project Natal reads movement supremely accurately, the issue of navigating a 3D space on a 2D screen remains an issue. Accordingly, Ricochet the game is much more about trying to deal with keeping a vast quantity of balls in play via quick, expansive movements.

With Ricochet currently a tech demo, it would ultimately be foolish to assume that Project Natal’s future will entirely consist of similar mini-game experiences – that would surely squander the breadth of the precision the system offers. But if Ricochet proves anything, it’s the bottom line: is Natal is for real? The answer to that is, definitively, yes.



Poor them, they had to talk to Dom Mattrick, they should have really punched him

Anyway, the big question is cost isn't it? Because I assume that that is quite advanced tech that they have, because otherwise, why is it so far from release, because it looked like it was working well, apart from the avatar spazzing out a little. I think the big questions about it are the games, because frankly, I have no interest in playing full body motion capturing games, nor do I have much interest in playing with Milo...



JaggedSac said:

Lets put the whole article on there:

http://www.edge-online.com/features/impressions-project-natal-ricochet

So, while we have no qualms in stating that Project Natal reads movement supremely accurately, the issue of navigating a 3D space on a 2D screen remains an issue. Accordingly, Ricochet the game is much more about trying to deal with keeping a vast quantity of balls in play via quick, expansive movements.

 

 

I just imagined this with Avatar's 3-D tech . . .



It is very accurate apparently...



 

Evan Wells (Uncharted 2): I think the differences that you see between any two games has much more to do with the developer than whether it’s on the Xbox or PS3.

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LMAO. Penises never cease to amuse.



I am not sure what it would be called in the spatial motion technology world, but in console shooters it's called auto-aim. Both Sony and MS need to incorporate it into their mini-games. Nintendo figured it out long ago. Wii Sports Tennis is pretty forgiving.



Thanks for the input, Jeff.