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Cueil said:
txrattlesnake said:
Sony.

Honesty, Milo? What was Molyneux thinking? Trying to design a game for Catholic priests and highschool teachers that shoud have gone into modelling instead?


Milo=Skynet so you better watch what you say :p  I think you're being a little harsh.  Surely a update to Seaman would be an interesting change of pace.


Yeah, it it was Seaman and not boy simulator.



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NJ5 said:

As far as new announcements of exclusives, I think Nintendo clearly won. A lot of MS's announcements were PC/360 games which are not exclusives, and Sony managed to only show one new exclusive for 2010, and none for 2009. In terms of unexpected exclusives, Microsoft showed Crackdown 2 and Halo Reach, two first-party shooters...

Sony's problem was that their biggest announcements were all leaked or obvious.

 


Tell me again how Microsoft doesn't consider a Windows/Xbox 360 game exclusive?  I mean honestly do you think any PS2 game is no longer exclusive just because it's on the PSP now? 



Cueil said:
NJ5 said:

As far as new announcements of exclusives, I think Nintendo clearly won. A lot of MS's announcements were PC/360 games which are not exclusives, and Sony managed to only show one new exclusive for 2010, and none for 2009. In terms of unexpected exclusives, Microsoft showed Crackdown 2 and Halo Reach, two first-party shooters...

Sony's problem was that their biggest announcements were all leaked or obvious.

 


Tell me again how Microsoft doesn't consider a Windows/Xbox 360 game exclusive?  I mean honestly do you think any PS2 game is no longer exclusive just because it's on the PSP now? 

Because exclusive means "only available on...". Terms like console-exclusive are sad IMO. It's either an exclusive or not. If you want to throw PC into the mix fine, but that's clearly not Microsoft's focus at E3.

As far as PS2/PSP games go... I guess you'd call them timed-exclusives. That is, they were exclusives for a while (the same as games like Ninja Gaiden 2 and Bioshock oops this one was on PC too).

 



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NJ5 said:
Cueil said:
NJ5 said:

As far as new announcements of exclusives, I think Nintendo clearly won. A lot of MS's announcements were PC/360 games which are not exclusives, and Sony managed to only show one new exclusive for 2010, and none for 2009. In terms of unexpected exclusives, Microsoft showed Crackdown 2 and Halo Reach, two first-party shooters...

Sony's problem was that their biggest announcements were all leaked or obvious.

 


Tell me again how Microsoft doesn't consider a Windows/Xbox 360 game exclusive?  I mean honestly do you think any PS2 game is no longer exclusive just because it's on the PSP now? 

Because exclusive means "only available on...". Terms like console-exclusive are sad IMO. It's either an exclusive or not. If you want to throw PC into the mix fine, but that's clearly not Microsoft's focus at E3.

As far as PS2/PSP games go... I guess you'd call them timed-exclusives. That is, they were exclusives for a while (the same as games like Ninja Gaiden 2 and Bioshock oops this one was on PC too).

 

It means exclusive to console which they were, pc's are not consoles, left for dead 2 is console exclusive on the 360.



NJ5 said:

As far as new announcements of exclusives, I think Nintendo clearly won. A lot of MS's announcements were PC/360 games which are not exclusives, and Sony managed to only show one new exclusive for 2010, and none for 2009. In terms of unexpected exclusives, Microsoft showed Crackdown 2 and Halo Reach, two first-party shooters...

Sony's problem was that their biggest announcements were all leaked or obvious.

I have to say, neither Crackdown 2 or Halo Reach were surprises at all

As for Sony's new games, were Mod Nation Racers or FF XIV predicatable? I know the Last Guardian and Agent were (though nice to have it finally announced), but there was a rumour about SMG 2 before the conference, though I don't know about rumours of Metroid Prime or Super Mario Brothers



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Sony. GT5, GoW 3, Uncharted 2, etc... The list goes on.

Sony won even without the motion control, which I'll reserve judgement on until later.



Munkeh111 said:
NJ5 said:

As far as new announcements of exclusives, I think Nintendo clearly won. A lot of MS's announcements were PC/360 games which are not exclusives, and Sony managed to only show one new exclusive for 2010, and none for 2009. In terms of unexpected exclusives, Microsoft showed Crackdown 2 and Halo Reach, two first-party shooters...

Sony's problem was that their biggest announcements were all leaked or obvious.

I have to say, neither Crackdown 2 or Halo Reach were surprises at all

As for Sony's new games, were Mod Nation Racers or FF XIV predicatable? I know the Last Guardian and Agent were (though nice to have it finally announced), but there was a rumour about SMG 2 before the conference, though I don't know about rumours of Metroid Prime or Super Mario Brothers

True, Mod Nation Racers was not predictable, but frankly it's a Mario Kart clone which doesn't give much points to Sony... I certainly didn't see anyone excited about it at the Sony E3 thread.

FF XIV was not predictable so it definitely counts, that's what I meant by "one new exclusive for 2010". And again, I didn't see much excitement for it after the word "Online" popped up.

Did Sony or Microsoft have any newly announced exclusive that got people as excited as Nintendo's announcements? It didn't seem to me that they did...

 



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NJ5 said:
Cueil said:
NJ5 said:

As far as new announcements of exclusives, I think Nintendo clearly won. A lot of MS's announcements were PC/360 games which are not exclusives, and Sony managed to only show one new exclusive for 2010, and none for 2009. In terms of unexpected exclusives, Microsoft showed Crackdown 2 and Halo Reach, two first-party shooters...

Sony's problem was that their biggest announcements were all leaked or obvious.

 


Tell me again how Microsoft doesn't consider a Windows/Xbox 360 game exclusive?  I mean honestly do you think any PS2 game is no longer exclusive just because it's on the PSP now? 

Because exclusive means "only available on...". Terms like console-exclusive are sad IMO. It's either an exclusive or not. If you want to throw PC into the mix fine, but that's clearly not Microsoft's focus at E3.

As far as PS2/PSP games go... I guess you'd call them timed-exclusives. That is, they were exclusives for a while (the same as games like Ninja Gaiden 2 and Bioshock oops this one was on PC too).

 

Yeah... it's "only available on Microsoft Platforms"  it doesn't sound as nice as just saying Playstation, but it's the same thing.  And exclusive doesn't really hold to a specific platform anymore... every console maker has at least two platforms and I think the days of viewing each as separate are surely over.  And lets be honest... Sony and Microsoft look at their "Platforms" as a single entity when it comes to games.  And movies now... thank you Sony and Microsoft!



FKNetwork said:

It means exclusive to console which they were, pc's are not consoles, left for dead 2 is console exclusive on the 360.

That's what I mean, "exclusive to console" is just sad spin. You don't need a 360 to play Left 4 Dead 2 period. It's not a 360 exclusive.

 



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Nintendo, but not by much. Given they sold the most consoles in the last year, I expected them to by default. None had anything that surprising. (Some good announcements, but no real megatons like last year). That said, it isn't over yet.